General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Ancient Citizen]

Ignore your London and SE luvvies advice about the mood of the majority of people on Brexit

This is where Labour are now, a smug, middle class metropolitan elite that thinks it knows best has, by alienating its original
core vote, probably lost them the GE.

 

[blueinsa]

This is where Labour are now, a smug, middle class metropolitan elite that thinks it knows best has, by alienating its original
core vote, probably lost them the GE.

One of the papers this morning had this and its bang on...

"The lefts self righteousness is repellent"

 

[Ancient Citizen]

He is the wrong man, with the wrong policies and until Labour get their heads around BOTH of these facts, Labour will never win a majority in a general election. Labour MPs know this and voted by 80% to get rid of him. The penny still needs to drop with the hard left and the Marxists.

Knowing who has the grip of this party, Momentum, if Labour loses they'll probably install another fruitcake even further
left than Steptoe.

 

[liamctid]

he might be an intelligent bloke but I think he might be a labour communications officer .


Have you ever seen him talk or post about City on the threads ?
Mmmmmmmm

Bit of that on both sides of the political divide on here - might see what the City thread is like on a politics forum

 

[Len Rum]

One of the papers this morning had this and its bang on...

"The lefts self righteousness is repellent"

Read that in your fun packed Sun mate ( or maybe the Daily Star)?

 

[inbetween]

It’s a trade document. We knew most of it as the US helpfully published their mandate for the talks. We should do the same. Otherwise people will leak it and make everyone think the Govt is being furtive and dishonest. Rule One of trade talks. Set out your objectives, red lines and areas of concession and above all be transparent.

I'll ask another question, do you criticise the EU for their lack of transparency on negotiations on TTIP?

Should the EU therefore release sensitive documents relating to TTIP?

Nope thought not.

 

[BobKowalski]

This is where Labour are now, a smug, middle class metropolitan elite that thinks it knows best has, by alienating its original
core vote, probably lost them the GE.

Labour working class voters in a lot of London boroughs are going to tickled to find that they are now a smug, middle class metropolitan elite.

 

[Manc in London]

Really? I had not noticed that before.

Well none of the other newspapers are either, so I wonder why that might be. Hmmmmmmmm.

Haha

They have sly digs at him on a regular basis. The Guardian are, in general, left of centre. I would think the Morning Star are fans of Corbyn though :)

I quite like him but would rather see Kier Starmer or Barry Gardiner as leader of the party.

 

[blueinsa]

Read that in your fun packed Sun mate ( or maybe the Daily Star)?

Sky news via The Times.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Just an aside here, what has Corbyn ever done, or achieved? He's never had a proper job in his life, hails from a privileged,
wealthy background, and is a failed A level and Poly student.
All in all, a shouty, rich, no mark with a penchant for supporting anyone who hates the UK, it must be this history of failure
that has given him this rabid hatred of anyone who succeeds, hence the Marxist agenda.
Still,some may think differently.

 

[blueinsa]

Labour working class voters in a lot of London boroughs are going to tickled to find that they are now a smug, middle class metropolitan elite.

Its not those people running labour Bob.

 

[Blue Hefner]

Labour working class voters in a lot of London boroughs are going to tickled to find that they are now a smug, middle class metropolitan elite.

I believe Wythenshawe is also full of smug, middle-class, metropolitan elites. I accept I haven’t been to Civic Centre recently but I don’t think it’s changed that much.....

 

[inbetween]

This is where Labour are now, a smug, middle class metropolitan elite that thinks it knows best has, by alienating its original
core vote, probably lost them the GE.

They lost the last election with their core support, it hasn't really got that much worse!

 

[Ban-jani]

Read that in your fun packed Sun mate ( or maybe the Daily Star)?

Wherever it was written it’s true.

The attitude you have is costing Labour votes.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Labour working class voters in a lot of London boroughs are going to tickled to find that they are now a smug, middle class metropolitan elite.

They won't be so tickled with the smug metropolitan elite that's fucked up their party, for sure.

 

[BobKowalski]

I'll ask another question, do you criticise the EU for their lack of transparency on negotiations on TTIP?

Absolutely. It killed what ever chance there was of getting an agreement. The main takeaway from that was be as transparent as possible as rumour and wild speculation will do far more damage.

Establish your objectives, recognise areas on your own side where little or no domestic consensus exists and be transparent. The time to go into lockdown is when broad agreement has been reached within the respective mandates and you are into the mechanics of how it will all work.

 

[Len Rum]

Sky news via The Times.

Ah the Times , more right wing these days then those other publications I mentioned.

 

[blueinsa]

Haha

They have sly digs at him on a regular basis. The Guardian are, in general, left of centre. I would think the Morning Star are fans of Corbyn though :)

I quite like him but would rather see Kier Starmer or Barry Gardiner as leader of the party.

Barry Gardiner?

 

[blueinsa]

Ah the Times , more right wing these days then those other publications I mentioned.

You should have said when blathering on about the Sun or Star.

 

[Ban-jani]

Just an aside here, what has Corbyn ever done, or achieved? He's never had a proper job in his life, hails from a privileged,
wealthy background, and is a failed A level and Poly student.
All in all, a shouty, rich, no mark with a penchant for supporting anyone who hates the UK, it must be this history of failure
that has given him this rabid hatred of anyone who succeeds, hence the Marxist agenda.
Still,some may think differently.

He’s the epitome of what the current working class despise.