General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%
  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%
  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%
  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%

  • Total voters
    518
Bollox. I've seen what Remain ultras do in their online communities. It's like a Salem witch trial. Leavers either go quiet to retain friendships or leave the group.

No. They simply band within their own group with their own following. Farage has what a million followers? You think that are all pro EU remain types?

What is it with you guys and this massive persecution complex you carry around? Bullied by the school swot? Jeered at by the Chess Club?
 
He was more concerned with talking to other NATO foreign ministers to get a common policy stance against Putin. But yeah attending a meeting to discuss things that were not his brief is the sign of a control freak

Actually he was planning his resignation photo op. Career comes first and all that.
 
The Chief Rabbi is a politician now, of his own choosing, he's made a number of outrageous, unsubstantiated claims and smeared a party that has over 500,000 members.

Given this, it is a testimony to just how unfounded his bullshit is, that he has received so little blowback, then again he knew this in advance of his article. If the Labour party was what he claims it is, his words would have placed the Jewish community in a difficult position, the fact that it hasn't, is the truth that dare not speak its name.

Jeremy Corbyn is not anti-Semitic, the Labour party is not anti-Semitic, it does not have a history of anti-Semitism and it does not have any anti-Semitic policies, it does however have a policy of supporting a Palestinian homeland.

The Chief Rabbi knows all this..... and then he played his hand.

I'd have expected him to be slagging off the current government and their immigration policies before having a pop at Labour, and more specifically JC.
 
Better than the shouty screetchy Rebecca Long-Bailey woman that seems to be touted by many a Corbynista.
It's a toss up between tossers.

True she is a sour-faced whiner, but then again Barry Gardiner????

I have to say Laura Pidcock takes whinging to an entirely new level however. Dreadful, dreadful harpie.
 
Corbyn will rightly shoulder the blame for making Labour un-electable. But there is a massive leap to pin brexit on him.

Whatever comes of brexit the blame will reside 100% with the tories who promoted it and ultimately shifted the Tory party in to UKIP territory and the moste extreme version of it to hammer it home despite the overwhelming evidence that it would be a disaster.

Trying to attach blame on those who did a half arsed job in stopping it is a bit of a stretch.
I don't think you read what I wrote accurately
 
If she becomes the next leader then the country is in trouble. It will be 20 years of a Tory government with no real Opposition. It will like China!

With the Momentum grip on the party, there's a very real possibility they would seek to replace Corbyn with someone equally unelectable. Not sure they have anyone who can fill those boots quite so well - apart from Marxist McDonnell of course - but there's a couple who would give it a good shot, and she is definitely one of them.
 
Yeah hating Nato, backing Putin even when the evidence is solid.

Do you really expect us to believe that a man who holidayed in East Germany, at the height of the Cold War, who described the communist dictator of Cuba as ‘a champion of social justice’, who advocates the surrender of Gibraltar to Spain and the surrender of the Falklands to Argentina. A guy who wanted peace in Ulster but only on the IRA’s terms, and who repeatedly called for the disbandment of NATO but never the Warsaw Pact and who has promoted a disgusting set of far left activists to positions of authority in the Labour Party could betray his country? Ah wait...
 
Do you really expect us to believe that a man who holidayed in East Germany, at the height of the Cold War, who described the communist dictator of Cuba as ‘a champion of social justice’, who advocates the surrender of Gibraltar to Spain and the surrender of the Falklands to Argentina. A guy who wanted peace in Ulster but only on the IRA’s terms, and who repeatedly called for the disbandment of NATO but never the Warsaw Pact and who has promoted a disgusting set of far left activists to positions of authority in the Labour Party could betray his country? Ah wait...

It was in the 1970’s. It wasn’t the height of the Cold War. Like a lot of service families we did day trips to East Berlin in the 70’s.

Corbyn is an old school leftie and said and did old school leftie things. Johnson is an old school entitled twat and said and did old school entitled twatty things. Still does. He even managed to sell out our Union in his first three months of office. Not sure even Corbyn could ‘betray’ his country that fast.
 
Do you really expect us to believe that a man who holidayed in East Germany, at the height of the Cold War, who described the communist dictator of Cuba as ‘a champion of social justice’, who advocates the surrender of Gibraltar to Spain and the surrender of the Falklands to Argentina. A guy who wanted peace in Ulster but only on the IRA’s terms, and who repeatedly called for the disbandment of NATO but never the Warsaw Pact and who has promoted a disgusting set of far left activists to positions of authority in the Labour Party could betray his country? Ah wait...

hook, line and sinker.
Surprised you have room left for food...
 
If Corbyn was right, would that change your mind?
He is undoubtedly right but exposing the Tories' privatizing ways is hardly new and in any case the NHS 'revelations' transparently don't prove anything - it's an obvious stunt succeeding only in further reducing their credibility in the eyes of the majority of the electorate (if that's even possible.) The problem with the current extremist Labour leadership is that actually gaining power and improving our public services etc is wholly secondary. For Corbyn, McDonnell, McCluskey, Milne etc etc the joys of waging their antiquated war on the evil rich and powerful class comes first, definitely not the well being and prosperity of our country. We are just a sacrificial weapon in the historic Marxist assault on the international capitalist system and spreading their visceral hatred of the USA.
 
Do you really expect us to believe that a man who holidayed in East Germany, at the height of the Cold War, who described the communist dictator of Cuba as ‘a champion of social justice’, who advocates the surrender of Gibraltar to Spain and the surrender of the Falklands to Argentina. A guy who wanted peace in Ulster but only on the IRA’s terms, and who repeatedly called for the disbandment of NATO but never the Warsaw Pact and who has promoted a disgusting set of far left activists to positions of authority in the Labour Party could betray his country? Ah wait...
hook, line and sinker.
Surprised you have room left for food...
He's from South America.
 
From Faisal at the BBC. IFS project more borrowing under Tories than Labour with no deal exit but less with a deal. LibDems less still

IFS suggest Labour, even with its plans for big expansion would see the national debt up around 75-76%/GDP - but the Conservatives not extending the Brexit deadline and choosing WTO would see debt at 80%/GDP... 73% with a deal. Lib Dems meanwhile down near 70%’.

 
Quote:

The question for Labour: why are you sticking with Jeremy Corbyn?

... there is one common if, for some, uncomfortable premise. It is the constant factor in the calculus run by all the political parties and by the warring factions within them. Put simply, it is the fact that vast swathes of the electorate are unprecedentedly hostile to the idea of making Jeremy Corbyn their prime minister.

The Labour leader has the lowest poll numbers of any leader of the opposition since records began. His net satisfaction rating is minus 60, outstripping the previous negative record held since 1982 by Michael Foot. He is less popular than Boris Johnson among both men and women, in every socioeconomic category, whether richer or poorer, in London and Scotland as well as the Midlands and Wales and, remarkably, in every age group.

So, good people of the forum, I ask you, which lying Tory rag is the above quote taken from? The Daily Mail perchance? What about the Torygraph? Maybe the BBC with their covert Tory activists distorting the truth (notwithstanding the opposite is true of the BBC)?

No, my friends, The Guardian. Supporter of fine Labour principles since records began. And a huge supporter of the scruffy, bum fluff-bearded tosser, obviously.

Jeremy Corbyn: Saviour of the Conservatives, Deliverer of Brexit. Thank-you Jerermy for your outstanding contribution to 5 more years of Conservative government.

That would be the pointless article a month ago which somehow expected Labour to go against its constitution and ditch its elected leader.

Same author this week:

It doesn’t matter that the psephological sage John Curtice rates Labour’s chance of winning a majority at close to zero, because Corbyn doesn’t need to win a majority. If he can just do enough to deny the Tories an overall majority, he could turn to the SNP, Plaid Cymru and others to push him across the line. He might not need to gain many seats; he might not even need the help of the Liberal Democrats. Put simply, Labour, too, has a steep and narrow path to Downing Street – steeper than the Tories’, given the polls, but smoother in the sense that while Johnson needs to win at least 321 seats to stay in No 10, Corbyn could get there with as few as 270.

He’s being helped in that effort by some jaw-dropping, unforced Tory errors. Slow to act on floods in Yorkshire, the Tories once again showed their compassionate side this week when Dominic Raab defended a government decision to seek legal costs from the parents of Harry Dunn, who was killed in a collision allegedly involving the wife of a US diplomat. And the dishonesty and deceptions keep coming.

Meanwhile, twice as many young people have registered to vote this time as in 2017 and the NHS has pulled ahead of Brexit as the most important issue for voters – both of which should make the terrain more favourable to Labour.
 

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