Corbyn?
He said in 2011 that it’s bias to suggest Israel has the right to exist.
He challenged the removal of an antisemitic mural in 2012 from the side of a street, depicting a group of Jewish men sat round a monopoly board and the world, with human figures underneath it.
Well, I don't want to do whataboutism regarding the Cons suspending and immediately allowing member back in, so I won't. :)
What I will say is that I don't know about the individual cases, so I can't comment directly on them, but if you're in a job don't you suspensions and warning regarding conduct, so protocol is followed...?
As for the member that said about the holocaust he's a tool. He should have been dealt with more severely, but I don't know their rules.
But, your last sentence was very interesting; why ARE there still Jewish MPs under Corbyn...?
It's a political issue. It should be a cross-party issue, but it seems that the Tories couldn't care less about the Palestinians. It's unfortunate that Labour's support for Palestine is often either honestly misinterpreted or intentionally misrepresented as antisemitic. I agree with you that it certainly isn't doing Labour any favours, though that it mostly because of how the media has chosen to paint things. But I certainly respect that they have the courage of their conviction.
Yes he is.
He’s doesn’t give a shit about Jewish people, his last few posts have confirmed that.
So you're OK with him lying when saying "Where anyone has committed any antisemitic acts or made any antisemitic statements, they are either suspended or expelled from the party and we have investigated every single case."? Corbyn lies = OK, Johnson lies = Not OK?
Or are you suggesting it is in fact true, and the various reports to the contrary are false?
It seems pretty self-evident to me that it was one dirty great big fat lie, blurted out when under pressure in the TV interview and the very damning accusations were being made. His record on this is patently shocking, so he lied about it.
But if it makes you unelectable you will never get a chance to make a change anyway. Palestine only seems to be an issue for a minority of Labour voters and it is cutting off our nose to spite our face.
What are you saying?
Revoke support for Palestinians..?
I can only go off the various reports (there are several from different people) saying it's a lie. Not being at the centre of goings on in the party myself, I have nothing else to go off. But as I say, I tend to go by the, "if it walks like a duck" addage. Things are usually as they appear unless there is evidence to suggest otherwise.What I'm saying is in the timeframe you have put up, his comment may well be true. Up until May this year, right?
Have you checked?
Thanks,it was fully explained on this morning today by someone with no axe to grind,i have spent the last 6 weeks armed with perscriptions for 3 different brands going all over the place trying to find any left in stock,boots had 1 pack which i have got,that is one month then everyone is cleaned out till at least june next year,can't even get parrall imports in,those are the same drug from abroad written in greek or whatever,going cold turkey on HRT is the wrong thing to do but it will happen,you think i get arsey now and if you have a wife or partner on it be preparedI don’t know the particulars of that but if it is to do with Brexit it won’t move anyone’s needle - they will search for reasons why it’s absolutely nothing to do with Brexit and then if none are found they will then 1) point to drugs that the government have previously withdrawn, not paid for etc. when Brexit wasn’t the issue then 2) say it’s a price worth paying
Anyway, I hope it’s nothing to do with Brexit and that you and people in the same position get sorted as soon as possible
But the tory boys said it wouldn't happen,Rascal did try and tell themIm struggling to get Naproxen .... my brother in law is struggling with some of his meds as well
Deary me.
As I told you already, I do not advocate propping up "failing" and uncompetitive industries. Nothing has changed and I have not "converted" to socialism. Funny that, FFS!!!
There is nothing "comradey" about wanting to see British industry do well. Perhaps you'd accuse Heseltine of being hard left for his support of British industry when he was trade and industry secretary? I do not advocate supporting "failing" and uncompetitive industries but helping us smoothly transition through a successful Brexit, is ENTIRELY different. Beggars belief that you would be so utterly petty to try to score points about this. Pathetic in fact.
Thanks,it was fully explained on this morning today by someone with no axe to grind,i have spent the last 6 weeks armed with perscriptions for 3 different brands going all over the place trying to find any left in stock,boots had 1 pack which i have got,that is one month then everyone is cleaned out till at least june next year,can't even get parrall imports in,those are the same drug from abroad written in greek or whatever,going cold turkey on HRT is the wrong thing to do but it will happen,you think i get arsey now and if you have a wife or partner on it be prepared
But that's not important,lets get back to how one side is isamophobic and one is anti muslim and ignore what is happening on the ground, and what they don't want you to see,sigh
I'll put up what was explained this morning when they put it up,the government are not paying drug companies and due to brexit we can't get any in from abroadFuck all to do with brexit so stop it.
from the Guardian...
"The crisis reportedly started in late 2018 when supply issues that began in China forced some manufacturers to stop producing HRT patches. This resulted in increased demand for other brands, which in turn became scarce.
Shortages are expected to continue until next year".
The problems with the availability of drugs for the last 9 months are mainly due to do with pharmaceutical companies struggling to comply with the EU "Falcified Medicines Directive" that was introduced in February 2019. All production processes have to comply with the directive as must all sourced ingredients and chemicals. Everything has to be tracked. It's a nightmare to implement, a necessary nightmare but a nightmare all the same. The NHS is better off than many due to it's purchasing power but sorting it out is like opening a massive can of worms.Im struggling to get Naproxen .... my brother in law is struggling with some of his meds as well
Bob, I have been entirely consistent in my views that it is folly to prop up what are intrinsically uncompetitive industries - such as British coal mining - to provide just one example. Nothing has changed. It is still my view, so your "comrade" comment was childish and wide of the mark.Think you need to take your concerns up with the IEA and IoD as currently they are racking up the ‘points scored’ on this issue.
I’m just curious as to how quickly you flip based solely on who is delivering the message. Corbyn. ‘State Socialism!’. Johnson ‘Supporting British Industry through Brexit!’.
Principles are so inconvenient during an election.
I'll put up what was explained this morning when they put it up,the government are not paying drug companies and due to brexit we can't get any in from abroad
But if it makes you unelectable you will never get a chance to make a change anyway. Palestine only seems to be an issue for a minority of Labour voters and it is cutting off our nose to spite our face.
Get it right.
YOU'VE accused Corbyn directly of being 'anti-Semitic'. By your definition, if he is, then I am, too.
I've repeated what he's done or is doing and you reject it.
My personal position rejects anybody racist and that has been a constant all my life.
If you've lost 'goodwill' towards me, then that's your choice.
The only thing Corbyn has done 'wrong' is fighting for the rights of everyone.
So, you can't quote anything Corbyn actually said cos... there isn't anything to quote??
As for the figures, isn't there only 2 Jewish bankers in the pic and it's about bankers ruling the world? they all happen to be classed as 'White' by the muralist.
Mmm... I know, right!
Don't I? What I don't care about is corrupt cunts like Netanyahu killing innocent protesters.
Don't hear much from you about that. You're more concerned with a guy that's trying to bring peace to all sides.
Look I'm being anti-Semitic!!
Oh yes, talking of which, I'd like to hear that accusation directed at ME, not to other posters.
And don't be a "shithouse" about it!!