General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Cheesy]

Corbyn is PRO people. He's not ANTI business.

His manifesto is absolutely anti-business, particularly small & medium sized businesses who employ most of the people in this country.

 

[George Hannah]

It was my grandfather read the koran/Quran once.

Oh dear, not good ug -
'my grandfather knew the Q'ran by heart' is what he actually said - his grandfather being Osman Wilfred Kemal and his great grandfather being Ali Kemal. Do you think he's lying about his antecedents being Muslims?

 

[Bigga]

It was my grandfather read the koran/Quran once.

To be fair, he said his grandfather knew the Qur'an "like the back of his hand".

I don't know what that was supposed to prove as Johnson never knew the man that was stoned to death.

The 'Johnson' lineage name is taken from his great grandmother's side of the family to avoid Turkish persecution otherwise he would be 'Kemal'. Nothing to see in that itself, but to be claiming some sort of affinity with Islam is a sham.

 

[Len Rum]

I really have to applaud your distraction techniques.
You really have done your best to bury the rampant antisemitism infecting the Labour party.

Can I recommend George Harrison's last album to you mate.
It's a great listen and you're even featured in the title track.
Check it out.

 

[mcfc1632]

Gosh. What do you call someone who makes up what someone might have said then calls him a wanker for not saying it?

In this case...………...

Perceptive?

 

[Bigga]

His manifesto is absolutely anti-business, particularly small & medium sized businesses who employ most of the people in this country.

Anyone can have an opinion.

"Earth" has many other versions in different universes.

It helps if you explain why that is to the wider audience otherwise it becomes a theory.

 

[urban genie]

Oh dear, not good ug -
'my grandfather knew the Q'ran by heart' is what he actually said - his grandfather being Osman Wilfred Kemal and his great grandfather being Ali Kemal.
Do you think he's lying about his antecedents being Muslims?

Never said he lied and anyone who knows about politics knows his great grand father was a prominent ottoman both in exile amd when he returned to turkey.

I only quoted what he said about his grandfather about reading the Qur'an, no one is denying his heritage.

 

[George Hannah]

To be fair, he said his grandfather knew the Qur'an "like the back of his hand". I don't know what that was supposed to prove as Johnson never knew the man that was stoned to death. The 'Johnson' lineage name is taken from his great grandmother's side of the family to avoid Turkish persecution otherwise he would be 'Kemal'. Nothing to see in that itself, but to be claiming some sort of affinity with Islam is a sham.

It was his great grandfather (not his grandfather) who was murdered by a mob in the 1920s so it's not surprising BoJo didn't know him. 'Knew the Q'ran by heart' is what he actually said this morning and as far his Islamic affinity being 'a sham' - have you watched his 'Who Do You Think You Are' filmed 12 years ago? Even if our politicians are often strangers to truth it doesn't justify the tedious lies about them on BM.

Never said he lied and anyone who knows about politics knows his great grand father was a prominent ottoman both in exile amd when he returned to turkey. I only quoted what he said about his grandfather about reading the Qur'an, no one is denying his heritage.

misquoted - that was the point of my post.

 

[hilts]

Doubtless I will get flack for saying this, but genuinely this is what I think:

Were we not i the middle of a GE campaign, Corbyn would be questioning the wrongful "execution" of the terrorist by British police and calling for a "full investigation" etc etc. A few shallow words of regret followed by monologues of criticism of the government, the police and anyone else he can think of.

It's in his DNA. He's only holding his tongue because a GE is on and his "slip" about letting prisoners out early is absolutely what he thinks. Not 3 weeks ago he was saying Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi should have been arrested. He said the death of Osama Bin Laden was "a tragedy".

I think he's an absolute wanker.

We know his first thought on seeing the incident was with the scumbag shot, privately he will see the copper as a state sanctioned murderer. Corbyn isn’t a wanker he’s an utter scumbag.

 

[Mancityus]

All this Brexit talk, economic problems will become non-issue once Jeremy Corbyn is in place. All discussions would be around when current week's incident still classified as an attack by an assailant would be confirmed as terrorist attack by BBC.

 

[Chippy_boy]

We know his first thought on seeing the incident was with the scumbag shot, privately he will see the copper as a state sanctioned murderer. Corbyn isn’t a wanker he’s an utter scumbag.

A majority of the UK population have a similar opinion of him. 65% in fact, disapprove of him, compared to a miserable 19% who approve.

 

[Bigga]

It was his great grandfather (not his grandfather) who was murdered by a mob in the 1920s so it's not surprising BoJo didn't know him. 'Knew the Q'ran by heart' is what he actually said this morning and as far his Islamic affinity being 'a sham' - have you watched his 'Who Do You Think You Are' filmed 12 years ago? Even if our politicians are often strangers to truth it doesn't justify the tedious lies about them on BM.

So you put up a background into the show's effort. Okay; what was the point?

It doesn't prove I'm wrong. I said he doesn't have an affinity for Islam, where does it say he does?

Oh and apologies for not putting 'great' in front of 'grandfather' earlier.

Proving, once again, I have no points to make based on that.

*smh*...

 

[Cheesy]

Anyone can have an opinion.

"Earth" has many other versions in different universes.

It helps if you explain why that is to the wider audience otherwise it becomes a theory.

I've posted this previously on here...

I'm sole Director & shareholder of a Ltd company that employs one person. Say I pay myself £25K a year (so not exactly what you'd call a fortune) and the business makes a £20K profit...

Currently on 20K profit I'll pay £3800 in CT. If I pay myself 25K (12.5K wages & 12.5K in dividends) I'll pay £787 in income tax. A total of £4587.

Under Labour on 20K profit I'll pay £4200 in CT. If I pay myself 25K (12.5K wages & 12.5K in dividends) I'll pay £2500 in income tax. A total of £6700.

So, I'll be over £2K a year worse off.

What do you think will be the first thing to go in order to cut costs and where is the incentive to start your own Ltd Company that will hopefully make a profit (and so pay tax) and hopefully employ people (who will also then pay tax)?

 

[George Hannah]

So you put up a background into the show's effort. Okay; what was the point? It doesn't prove I'm wrong. I said he doesn't have an affinity for Islam, where does it say he does? Oh and apologies for not putting 'great' in front of 'grandfather' earlier. Proving, once again, I have no points to make based on that.*smh*...

He may indeed be the rabid racist you want him to be but posting lies and empty smears just demeans the discussion and your contribution to it.

 

[Metal Biker]

A majority of the UK population have a similar opinion of him. 65% in fact, disapprove of him, compared to a miserable 19% who do.

I suspect a lot of that 19% post on here.

 

[Postman Pep]

He may indeed be the rabid racist you want him to be but posting lies and empty smears just demeans the discussion and your contribution to it.

Do you always find lies and empty smears to paint politicians even mass membership parties as rabid racists demeaning to the discussion?

 

[Bigga]

I've posted this previously on here...

I'm sole Director & shareholder of a Ltd company that employs one person. Say I pay myself £25K a year (so not exactly what you'd call a fortune) and the business makes a £20K profit...

Currently on 20K profit I'll pay £3800 in CT. If I pay myself 25K (12.5K wages & 12.5K in dividends) I'll pay £787 in income tax. A total of £4587.

Under Labour on 20K profit I'll pay £4200 in CT. If I pay myself 25K (12.5K wages & 12.5K in dividends) I'll pay £2500 in income tax. A total of £6700.

So, I'll be over £2K a year worse off.

What do you think will be the first thing to go in order to cut costs and where is the incentive to start your own Ltd Company that will hopefully make a profit (and so pay tax) and hopefully employ people (who will also then pay tax)?

What about the other tax reliefs that would benefit you? Are you a landowner or are you renting your business space?

What's your turnover and how does that affect business in what you'd pay in tax?

I'm not sure your business will be too affected with the snapshot you've presented.

"Labour would, in contrast to the official baseline which has corporation tax at 17% from April 2020. Reintroduce a small profits rate for firms with profits under £300,000 a year. Raise the main rate of corporation tax to 21% from April 2020, 24% from April 2021 and 26% from April 2022. Keep the small profits rate at 19% in April 2020, rising to 20% in April 2021 and 21% in April 2021"

 

[George Hannah]

Do you always find lies and empty smears to paint politicians even mass membership parties as rabid racists demeaning to the discussion?

Lies and empty smears are de rigeur on here and always execrable. Evidence based opinions are a different matter but they should be presented in falsifiable ways.

 

[Cheesy]

What about the other tax reliefs that would benefit you? Are you a landowner or are you renting your business space?

What's your turnover and how does that affect business in what you'd pay in tax?

I'm not sure your business will be too affected with the snapshot you've presented.

What are these tax reliefs that you're talking about?

What does turnover have to do with the amount of tax I pay?

And the example I've provided is exactly the position I'd be in should Labour get in.


Now I've answered your questions have a go at answering mine :)

What do you imagine will be the first thing to go if I need to cut costs?

Where's the incentive to take the risk of forming a Ltd Company if there's no benefit of doing so?

 

[Postman Pep]

Lies and empty smears are de rigeur on here and always execrable. Evidence based opinions are a different matter but they should be presented in falsifiable ways.

That clears that up then :)