I really don't think that will be happening whilst Milne and Corbyn rule the roost.
Without them Labour are a remain party. Anyone who watched the shenanigans at their conference will know this is true.
That'll will be funny as we'll have left by then good luck with the rejoin party.Agree they are highly resistant but the direction of travel is clear and they can only hold of the will of the party for so long. I suspect that in 6 months time JC will be gone, Milne will be gone and Labours new leader will be 100% remain.
Labour are trying to ride the falling popularity of brexit. I have no doubt that they will be an all out remain party at some point in the near future it is all a question of when they think it best to make that leap.
No Deal now looking the most likely outcome.
Alternative Ulster.
Lions led by donkeys....
I’m sure the Cabinet have gone through the same level of deep thinking and will be totally prepared for the negotiation when we leave in January. I would like to see Raab lead. He is by far the most insightful and intellectual of the potential candidates.Some reflection on EU thinking on the next phase from Eurasia Group.
‘... bottom line, for now, is that keeping "UK in the continental orbit" will underpin EU's approach & objectives in phase 2. One senior official tells me: "We want to keep the UK in the continental Europe's orbit. We don't want to lose the UK. This will have a big impact on where the EU will be in 10-15 years, between the 2 poles of the US & China." This objective will impact architecture & approach. There's some discussion (& has been before) of an "umbrella architecture", at leader's level, that will meet twice per year.
There will be a co-ordinating body, that works on a limited number of agreements. 1) Trade/FTA; 2) Foreign/security policy; 3) Research/Erasmus/Verizon etc. "There will not be 120 bilateral deals" like Switzerland. This is to avoid complications, but also because EU side is considering an interdependent negotiation between the various, limited, layers. So if UK wants to diverge, "to be a competitor", then this *won't only* hinder access to Single Market, but will also impact co-operation/access via-a-vis the other levels too. As one senior official tells me: "We want leverage in these areas" to try & keep UK as close as poss.
This could also give UK leverage over its strongest card - defence. But what's clear is thinking on EU side regarding phase 2 is quite mature, and Commission & MS have already done a lot of work on negotiating structures’
I’d like Hancock to do it. He was on radio 4 this morning saying how he’s been to 85 constituencies, the NHS is not for negotiation, agriculture is not for negotiation, doing simultaneous trade deals with the USA and Europe will be easy, he doesn’t know whether Boris will appear on Andrew Neill show (spoiler: he won’t) as he’s ‘running the NHS’ and doesn’t keep the PMs diary. Sounds like he’ll smash it.I’m sure the Cabinet have gone through the same level of deep thinking and will be totally prepared for the negotiation when we leave in January. I would like to see Raab lead. He is by far the most insightful and intellectual of the potential candidates.
Wow. He will run Raab close that’s for sure. Isn’t it comforting to know that we have individuals of this calibre ensuring the country’s future prosperity. Gives me a warm glow inside.I’d like Hancock to do it. He was on radio 4 this morning saying how he’s been to 85 constituencies, the NHS is not for negotiation, agriculture is not for negotiation, doing simultaneous trade deals with the USA and Europe will be easy, he doesn’t know whether Boris will appear on Andrew Neill show (spoiler: he won’t) as he’s ‘running the NHS’ and doesn’t keep the PMs diary. Sounds like he’ll smash it.
I’m sure the Cabinet have gone through the same level of deep thinking and will be totally prepared for the negotiation when we leave in January. I would like to see Raab lead. He is by far the most insightful and intellectual of the potential candidates.
best sticking with the EU in my opinion - the weather is better lol
It don't know it looks a bit nippy to me.
No. It’s about our capacity and capability to process Brexit and shape our future relationship. ‘Canada plus’ is like ‘Australian points system’ for immigration. They are just words that politicians parrot and people repeat. What does ‘Canada plus’ mean? What does ‘plus’mean? Is ‘plus’ services which FTA’s don’t cover particularly well? So if it’s services that means standardisation and recognition of qualifications in line with Europe. It means allowing people to cross and trade across borders. It will require a legal oversight recognised Europe wide. Guess what. That’s the ECJ. But we don’t want the ECJ so back to square one.
Our ‘friendly’ relationship with Europe will not survive repeated rounds of negotiations with the EU because everything gets binary very quickly and that means trade off and choices that are beyond the U.K. State’s capacity to make without severe pain and political consequences and it is this capacity and capability I am talking about.
Just look at the WA. Johnson said they can whistle for their divorce money. They got £39billion which runs out end of 2020. No British PM can agree to a customs border within our Union. We now have a customs border within our own sovereign territory. Legal protection on food GI’s. A red line for the EU. In the WA. EU state aid rules to apply to NI businesses or any GB business that intersects with NI. In the WA.
You only have to look at the past to gauge how the future will pan out.
As a nation it has been accepted and we are sleepwalking into the disastrous consequences. Nobody wants to talk about it any more, they just want it over with and erroneously see Johnson's bullshit as the way it's going to happen.One of the biggest issues with brexit is that once you get past all the fancy slogans and go into actual detail it falls apart and is revealed to be the pile of steaming dog crap it really is.
It's why when asked for benefits of brexit supporters of it usually can't give tangible benefits
Very surprised that the country is still THIS pro-Brexit
I'm a Lexit man so I'm glad we will be out now
But how out of touch have people been saying the country would be 52/48 the other way