General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Cheesy]

where did I say a party was going to do that ? You don’t half miss the point.

my point is, if most business owners had their way and weren’t made to by law then they would for the most part have it similar to America where there is no maternity leave or paid holidays

If I was rushed back to work I think my mental health would be ruined and shoving my child in a nursery at 3/4 weeks old ...

And you're wrong about business owners wanting things to be similar to America. How many business owners have you asked for their opinion that makes you think this?

 

[bobmcfc]

Congrats on the new baby.

Thankyou
His name is Edison ;-) he was 2 months early and my employer was very supportive

 

[blueinsa]

Thankyou
His name is Edison ;-) he was 2 months early and my employer was very supportive

Handsome chap right there :-)

Congrats.

 

[Bigga]

Each and every time you get presented with any facts that counter your facile arguments you just keep screaming
for more, which you then get, then it's turned into an attack on the sources.
One last time, google Socialism, when you've read and understood exactly what it is, please feel free to revert back
to the day job of calling everyone racists, it's a more comfortable comfort zone.

You make prove yourself out to be a complete idiot!!

Socialism is an economic system where everyone in society equally owns the factors of production. The ownership is acquired through a democratically elected government. ... Socialists take into account both individual needs and greater social needs. They allocate resources using central planning, as in a command economy.

i.e., inclusive of police, firefighters, nurses, doctors, army, navy, state education, the roads you travel on, the Queen and her extra large brood, social services, welfare!

Hire yourself a private policeman and a private firefighter if anything happens to you or your property as you don't need the state's help. I hope your kids are in private education, you use your private transport on your private roads. Make sure you don't visit the NHS and you fight your private war with your private army and private navy.

Toodle pip!

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Corbyn waving documents marked official and sensitive around again for the press.

i know it’s really exciting stuff.

He does not want to live in half of a country he has just said.

 

[bobmcfc]

Handsome chap right there :-)

Congrats.

And not in anyway named similarly to our goalkeeper (I said to my Manchester United supporting husband)

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Surely you should vote Lib Dem, it would seem to suit your reasons better?

I would, but they have no chance in my seat, so Labour is a tactical vote.

 

[BobKowalski]

Corbyn waving documents marked official and sensitive around again for the press.

Hardly sensitive. It’s about custom checks between NI and GB. The WA puts NI under a different customs regime then the rest of GB meaning there will be a Customs border down the Irish Sea which means customs checks on internal U.K. trade. The only sensitive bit was Johnson lying that this would happen. This will obviously have a negative effect on internal U.K. trade. In other news water is wet.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Insults ? We’re you called Delusional by chippyboy too ?

You implied that we pay shit wages and don't want to give increased maternity leave. Ok not a direct insult but completely untrue.

 

[Bluemanc100]

You make prove yourself out to be a complete idiot!!



i.e., inclusive of police, firefighters, nurses, doctors, army, navy, state education, the roads you travel on, the Queen and her extra large brood, social services, welfare!

Hire yourself a private policeman and a private firefighter if anything happens to you or your property as you don't need the state's help. I hope your kids are in private education, you use your private transport on your private roads. Make sure you don't visit the NHS and you fight your private war with your private army and private navy.

Toodle pip!

Don't forget the Royal Air Force? I doubt that Corbyn will get many votes from serving or ex-Mil voters... Certainly not this call-sign

 

[joe123]

Conservatives eh. What are they like?

this is what it boils down to for me. lord knows there are dickheads on every side, but there's a level of common decency that people who vote tory just don't seem to get in my experience.

 

[blueinsa]

Hardly sensitive. It’s about custom checks between NI and GB. The WA puts NI under a different customs regime then the rest of GB meaning there will be a Customs border down the Irish Sea which means customs checks on internal U.K. trade. The only sensitive bit was Johnson lying that this would happen. This will obviously have a negative effect on internal U.K. trade. In other news water is wet.

A potential PM of a government that will produce its own sensitive and confidential documents and reports and i will 100% guarantee that means he doesnt want them seen by anyone else.

Yet here is is like some investigative journalist singing like a canary.

This man could hold our nations biggest secrets in just over a weeks time and he cant keep his mouth shut on anything as he is still in his anti establishment mode.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I would, but they have no chance in my seat, so Labour is a tactical vote.

Fair enough.

Thankyou
His name is Edison ;-) he was 2 months early and my employer was very supportive

Nice one, enjoy! Nothing has come close to giving me as much pleasure in my life as my Children. And I do include that that 93.20 moment. But its a close call.

 

[mcfc1632]

So if you are a small/medium business owner under Labour you would see:

Your staff wage costs rise by between nearly £4 and £2 an hr across the board. Yes across the board, as if your 30yr old foreman gets say £11hr he/she isn't going to be happy when the 16yr old with no experience suddenly gets paid nearly as much. He/she will want and rightly expect to get paid significantly more.

A tax or the abolition of dividends.

Your corporation tax go up to between 2% and 7%. Assuming they can work out what the difference is between turnover and profit? As they didn't seem to know last week!

Your ability to hire staff on flexible contracts that suit your work requirements abolished. Full time or part time only guys.

A 32hr week in a few years, so another potential reduction in productivity of circa 20%.

You will have to pay staff for another 4 new bank holidays.

Have to cover maternity leave for an extra 3 months and cover extra paternity leave, which will increase from 2 to 4 weeks.

But don't worry, it's not all doom and gloom if you run a small business. Labour is going to put a know nothing small business adviser in your local post office and reduce your bills by circa £50 a month with free broadband!

No one in their right mind who runs or even works for a small or medium business would vote for this shower.

The policies above would result in mass unemployment and a big rise in inflation.

Vote Labour and you will get economic ruin for the many not the few!

"No one in their right mind...…." - You say

Unfortunately therein lies the risk for the UK - there are seemingly a good number of people that will still vote for a Corbyn/McDonnell government - how can they be so gullible!!

 

[BobKowalski]

A potential PM of a government that will produce its own sensitive and confidential documents and reports and i will 100% guarantee that means he doesnt want them seen by anyone else.

Yet here is is like some investigative journalist singing like a canary.

This man could hold our nations biggest secrets in just over a weeks time and he cant keep his mouth shut on anything as he is still in his anti establishment mode.

Given the documents show the PM was lying I imagine he doesn’t want them to be seen. But these are neither sensitive or secret. They are outlining the bleeding obvious. The WA divides our Union. Unionists in NI are pissed. The new customs protocols will not be ready in 11 months. Additionally the EU have published revised briefing docs for negotiations once the WA goes through and dropped “Negotiations should be organised in a way that makes the best possible use of the limited time....” as member states have no interest in working to a limited timetable. They want it done properly and carefully.

Finally a investigative journalist singing like a canary is pretty much the job description.

 

[BobKowalski]

Some of the reports findings

 

[mcfc1632]

Economical circumstances change therefore the optimal level of taxation changes. It's really not difficult to understand is it?

Every time you post anything to do with business & economics you display a complete lack of understanding about the subjects.

What's worse though is that you don't actually want to learn about these subjects as the conclusions you may reach might differ from your blinkered viewpoint.

A couple of years ago I had an exchange with him where he was banging on as if he was the oracle on all matters PFI and similarly exposing himself - I worked with the Treasury Taskforce when they drafted the Guidelines for government departments because I was managing a large programme/outsource PFI procurement

You learn to just recognise the need to post bollocks and be brass-necked outweighs self-awareness and concern of being embarrassed

 

[Chippy_boy]

A potential PM of a government that will produce its own sensitive and confidential documents and reports and i will 100% guarantee that means he doesnt want them seen by anyone else.

Yet here is is like some investigative journalist singing like a canary.

This man could hold our nations biggest secrets in just over a weeks time and he cant keep his mouth shut on anything as he is still in his anti establishment mode.

If by some bizarre twist of fate that dangerous fool Corbyn - and worse, his communist side kick - were ever to get into government, this country would look back on these times as being the darkest in our entire history. People seem to have no clue just how dangerous he is. McDonnell will set about systematically trying to wreck the economy in order to "prove" that capitalism doesn't work. I am convinced this is his game plan all along. The more people out of work, the more civil unrest, the better. He is not bothered about his personal reputation, he just wants to bring about "systemic change" which cannot be undone after he's gone. He will stop at nothing. People should be very, very careful what they wish for.

 

[Bluemanc100]

If by some bizarre twist of fate that dangerous fool Corbyn - and worse, his communist side kick - were ever to get into government, this country would look back on these times as being the darkest in our entire history. People seem to have no clue just how dangerous he is. McDonnell will set about systematically trying to wreck the economy in order to "prove" that capitalism doesn't work. I am convinced this is his game plan all along. The more people out of work, the more civil unrest, the better. He is not bothered about his personal reputation, he just wants to bring about "systemic change" which cannot be undone after he's gone. He will stop at nothing. People should be very, very careful what they wish for.

I find it very hard to understand why people can't see right through them... they're like the Kiddie Catcher on Chitty Chitty Bang Bang....

 

[mcfc1632]

...............….I can understand people not wanting to vote Tory, the choice isn't great at the moment. But for God's sake just don't vote Labour. This lot will economically ruin this country.

Without any shadow of a doubt.

The Labour Party does not exist at the moment - it has been hijacked by the cult of Corbyn and McDonnell

Really - only obsessed ideologues and those that just want freebies and fuck the future of the UK should vote for them in this election