General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Ban-jani]

The hilarious thing is you got a like from IfIwasonly... for this ;-)

So funny

 

[mcfc1632]

I wonder if any of the Brexiteers going to tell us that HMT is spouting bollocks, are being disingenuous or are twisting facts like they do when people post exactly the same thing on here.
Are they going to accept the "inconvenient truth"?

Do you really think that many/any Brexit supporters on here believe that Johnson does not tell lies - frequently??

We know he does lie - so that is hardly an inconvenient truth

We also do know that a fair few Remainers on here, on a regular basis, do twist facts, are disingenuous and do hide from inconvenient truths

I hope that helped

 

[Chippy_boy]

You do know that China has a far worse inequality index than the UK?

Inequality in China is virtually the same as the great enemy which is US capitalism........

Have you also seen Hong Kong recently? People are quite literally fighting in the streets to avoid the forced implementation of Beijings wishes.

Clearly socialism or communism does not achieve what you think it will achieve.

I was going to point this out to him earlier, but frankly, could not be arsed.

I mean seriously, just how many failed attempts at socialism and communism do we have to have before people will realise it doesn't work. It really beggars belief that anyone still takes it seriously.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Nothing.

Corbyn's is a new kinder socialism that's never been tried before.

Except in Cuba, Venezuela, Soviet Union...

 

[TheRemainsOfTheDave]

SNP car crash interview on Politics Live.

If it's wee Nicola I'll give it a miss.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Except in Cuba, Venezuela, Soviet Union...

That's not entirely fair. These are the countries which have multi-party politcal systems with ruling socialist governments. Perhaps we could aspire to be like one of these?

Algeria
Angola
Barbados
Bolivia
Congo
Ecuador
El Salvador
Ethiopia
Guinea-Bissau
Mauritius
Mozambique
Mexico
Namibia
Nepal
Nicaragua
Bangladesh
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Suriname
Tanzania
Uruguay
Venezuela
Zambia

 

[Scottyboi]

SNP car crash interview on Politics Live.

logged in to a load of notifications and all the posts are gone did it kick off?

 

[west didsblue]

Do you really think that many/any Brexit supporters on here believe that Johnson fies not tell lies - frequently??

We know he does lie - so that is hardly an inconvenient truth

We also do know that a fair few Remainers on here, on a regular basis, do twist facts, are disingenuous and do hide from inconvenient truths

I hope that helped

Not really. You missed the point as usual.

The point being that in spite of knowing that Johnson tells lies you're happy with his poxy WA and the implications on the UK union spelt out by HMT, or do you think that those implications are scaremongering?

 

[Ban-jani]

If it's wee Nicola I'll give it a miss.

It wasn’t, it was a young MP.

She was woeful.

The IFS and independent sources in Scotland are saying the SNP are pissing in the wind and she just deflected to mildly relevant things she thought they had done well, without a single stat.

It was like “your maths, science and reading in Scotland, under SNP control, are now x% below England, despite having more money to spend per head, via the Barnet formula”.

Response- “er er well well, we’ve gone really great things for schools and lots of people are going into positive outcomes after education”.

 

[hilts]

Wow - most of them become openly anti-semetic themselves as they squirm

Such levels of squirming would suggest that they are Hard-left bluemooners;-)

You’re being harsh, some of them did say it was bad and some tried to run away. A couple were definitely bluemooners denial,deflection blaming the source etc...

You could flip it the other way round with Johnson and some selfish Tory supporting twats. It was a good video showing the hopelessness of discussing politics with dumb tribal members of the public.

 

[hilts]

It wasn’t, it was a young MP.

She was woeful.

The IFS and independent sources in Scotland are saying the SNP are pissing in the wind and she just deflected to mildly relevant things she thought they had done well, without a single stat.

It was like “your maths, science and reading in Scotland, under SNP control, are now x% below England, despite having more money to spend per head, via the Barnet formula”.

Response- “er er well well, we’ve gone really great things for schools and lots of people are going into positive outcomes after education”.

Saw it car crash tv, also saw Johnson’s press conference car crash tv it’s pretty depressing to be honest. Are we unlucky that all parties appear to be full of shit? Or is the job of running the country under the current system in this day and age just an impossible task.

 

[Ban-jani]

Saw it car crash tv, also saw Johnson’s press conference car crash tv it’s pretty depressing to be honest. Are we unlucky that all parties appear to be full of shit? Or is the job of running the country under the current system in this day and age just an impossible task.

I think politicians have got it wrong in terms of what the electorate wants, they think we want to be lied to rather than honesty and I also think it’s incredibly hard to run a country and that’s why every single government in the modern era has had scathing criticisms.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I love the concept of politicians not lying. Sadly, every single one of them does - no exceptions! Politician is a synonym for liar. Here are a pack of them from Remainers...

 

[hilts]

That's simply untrue because it completely ignores the stimulus which rate cuts provide to businesses and the economy, and these effects take time to work themselves through. Also it ignores the Laffer curve effect whereby higher rates drive lower activity and tax receipts.

Were this not true why not just increase corporation tax to 100% so we can collect the maximum? The answer is obvious: We'd have fewer businesses and much less investment and therefore much less tax collected.

Well there are several ways to look at this the Tories wanted

To reduce CT to help their business buddies and themselves
To reduce CT because they think it would help the economy, if so why the turnaround
To not reduce CT to look like they aren’t helping the rich even though this will reduce tax so is plain stupidity
To not reduce CT because it doesn’t bring in more money.

All of the above makes them look like pillocks.

 

[mcfc1632]

Bigga was dishing insults out left, right and centre (no pun intended) and got a few back.

Len, and a few others, took issue with my smacking school kids policy understandably, I got some support though.

Wasn’t that bad to be honest.

TBF Bigga has been issuing out direct insults left right and centre (like you - no pun intended) for a while now - some of them way beyond what others are allowed

Interesting that when he gets a few back action is taken

 

[Ban-jani]

TBF Bigga has been issuing out direct insults left right and centre (like you - no pun intended) - some of them way beyond what others are allowed

Interesting that when he gets a few back action is taken

I don’t know how many times you can call someone stupid before you get a slap on the wrist.

Maybe he’s got a hangover today?

 

[hilts]

I think politicians have got it wrong in terms of what the electorate wants, they think we want to be lied to rather than honesty and I also think it’s incredibly hard to run a country and that’s why every single government in the modern era has had scathing criticisms.

It’s got to the point where audiences now laugh at them, interviewers pretty much call them liars and the general feeling of the public is we are faced with nothing but bad choices. Even the most dedicated followers of parties on here know deep down their own lot have some serious issues. We cannot move forward unless people admit they’re standing in shit. Holding your nose and closing your eyes is not a solution.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I think politicians have got it wrong in terms of what the electorate wants, they think we want to be lied to rather than honesty and I also think it’s incredibly hard to run a country and that’s why every single government in the modern era has had scathing criticisms.

It's certainly hard to run a country when the lot of them, whatever their party, would struggle to run the Tombola stall at the church fête.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

It's certainly hard to run a country when the lot of them, whatever their party, would struggle to run the Tombola stall at the church fête.

we would be better off just making the winner of I’m a celebrity the prime minister

 

[Scottyboi]

It’s got to the point where audiences now laugh at them, interviewers pretty much call them liars and the general feeling of the public is we are faced with nothing but bad choices. Even the most dedicated followers of parties on here now deep down their own lot of some serious issues. We cannot move forward unless people admit their standing in shit. Holding your nose and closing your eyes is not a solution.

Yup i'd rather hung parliaments where everything is scrutinised properly before being implemented at the moment. Instead of a party getting a majority and doing what ever they please, because we know the majority of the time they don't stick to their promises.