General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%
  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%
  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%
  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%
  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%

  • Total voters
    518
Anyone not doing so, may as well not bother voting.
That's a nonsense comment millions will vote for other parties, if enough do it it can prevent either a Corbyn or Johnson government. By the looks of it 60% of the country don't want Johnson 70% don't want Corbyn, shows up the nonsense of the system but it is what it is and those of us that want neither have to use our votes as we think best. We certainly shouldn't be pressured into voting for other options by the scaremongering of those that want Johnson by demonising Labour as 100% there won't be a Labour majority.
 
Globalization gets a bad press.

People concentrate (understandably) on the downsides, but they are less quick to complain about being able to buy a 55" LCD TV for £300, or an electric drill from Aldi for £15. Let alone frozen lamb from New Zealand or french beans from peru.

If you multiply all of this across the basket of what people spend their money on, every week, every month, every year, then the net effect is that every household is hundreds (at least) and often thousands or tens of thousands of pounds better off, every year.

Now we could forego all of this, and go back to buying locally produced goods and services. There's nothing wrong with that ideology and in fact it offers many benefits for the environment, for local wages and employment and for lesser exploitation in other countries. But doing so would come at a huge financial cost. It is a choice. Do people want to have more disposable income, more trappings and more choice, or less of the above in order to reap the benefits I describe? You cannot expect to pay the same for your brussel sprouts if we don't have cheap labour picking them cheaply.

Seems to me people are quick to criticise globalization and yet not quick to put their hands in their pockets to go with the alternative. People cannot have their cake and eat it. And the sums involved are far from trivial.
Free trade is great.

However...
Shipping in cheap workers to keep wages low stinks. Businesses MUST pay capital costs of infrastructure to being them in or they just stack pressure on services. (Tax only pays for Revenue costs with so many coming in and planed capacity rapidly vapourises.)
Mega corporations moving money around from country to country is a disgrace and puts home grown business at a disadvantage. Cant see how to stop it unless you make turnover a component of Corporation tax though.
 
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Or maybe, just maybe, it says something about your lack of understanding of the situation?

That more people than not, think Jeremy Corbyn is a worse bet than Boris and that Labour's policies would ruin the country far more than Brexit ever could?

What really beggars belief is that anyone could imagine we could put the country a further 1 Trillion pounds into debt, with no ill effects on the economy.
Aye, let more people die, more people homeless and in poverty, more police cuts,firemen cuts, sell the NHS, let's all vote for the twice sacked racist liar..Jesus, you people
 
Aye, let more people die, more people homeless and in poverty, more police cuts,firemen cuts, sell the NHS, let's all vote for the twice sacked racist liar..Jesus, you people
If you are contemplating voting for Corbyn you clearly ignore his personal beliefs, his extreme ideologies, his dubious friends or you have no issue with them??
 

At least one LibDem candidate who can't win has told people to vote tactically (i.e. for Labour).

"My message to those people who are considering tactical voting is look at the evidence and, if you want to avoid Brexit in any kind, then do what you need to do."

And I did enjoy this:

 
Eton boys are undefiled...

Bullingdon boys are running wild

 
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Hate to say it but Gary Neville has called it right.

As much as Boris is a ****, even more so than Mr Neville, he is not a racist and Neville is talking out of his arse as per usual....pains me to defend the oaf and if you wish I will give you a very long list indeed as to why Boris is one of the biggest cunts on the planet, but his whipping up of racial hatred is...alleged is a load of bollocks. Nothing more than desperation from the left whom can only call out others apparent faults in order to hide the sad truth of which is they themselves have fuck all to offer.
 
Didn't realise you paid such close attention to all my posts. Sounds a bit stalkerish.
You’re wrong by the way and luckily for you the current Brexit thread only started in June this year so there’s no way to look at my old posts to disprove your nonsense.
Sorry - you are not convincing/deceiving anybody
 
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Or maybe, just maybe, it says something about your lack of understanding of the situation?

That more people than not, think Jeremy Corbyn is a worse bet than Boris and that Labour's policies would ruin the country far more than Brexit ever could?

What really beggars belief is that anyone could imagine we could put the country a further 1 Trillion pounds into debt, with no ill effects on the economy.


Nice to see that finally you admit that the Tories policies have put the country a further Trillion in debt.
 
At least one LibDem candidate who can't win has told people to vote tactically (i.e. for Labour).

"My message to those people who are considering tactical voting is look at the evidence and, if you want to avoid Brexit in any kind, then do what you need to do."

And I did enjoy this:


How can anyone hear that and vote tory - can't see anything there that can be denied. The genius of BJ and the tory party is that they have persuaded millions of folk who have nothing to conserve to vote conservative
 

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