Var debate 2019/20

[CatMan]

watched the spurs chelsea game and in the 2nd half when spurs player dele alli was offside and the ref played and give a freekick because the officials missed it ? but they went and reviewed it for a pen meaning they could call the offside if it was a pen, but the fool was outside the box so the freekick had to stand ????? WHY

Utter stupidity and really beyond belief. Can you imagine if Spurs had scored from the free kick? Lunatics have taken over the asylum is my only plausible explanation.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Its because Refs have/will stop taking responsibility for decisions because VAR will now decide. As a result (just like in Cricket) the accuracy of on field decisions will fall.

Officials were missing clear fouls, penalties, offsides on a weekly basis before the introduction of VAR - it’s why refs decisions were pretty much the talking point of every game - yesterday with no VAR, Chelsea would have had no penalty and Son would have stayed on the pitch, beyond farcical how we put up with that before.

 

[Hart of the Matter]

Officials were missing clear fouls, penalties, offsides on a weekly basis before the introduction of VAR - it’s why refs decisions were pretty much the talking point of every game - yesterday with no VAR, Chelsea would have had no penalty and Son would have stayed on the pitch, beyond farcical how we put up with that before.

You are tiresome to the extremes. Yawn.
You and your ilk have stolen my game from me. I no longer go to/ or watch matches and celebrate goals. So kindly fuck off and quit the posturing.

 

[BlueHammer85]

You are tiresome to the extremes. Yawn.
You and your ilk have stolen my game from me. I no longer go to/ or watch matches and celebrate goals. So kindly fuck off and quit the posturing.

Ok so why you bothering posting about refs decisions if you no longer go or watch matches.
This is a VAR debate, Posters are allowed to debate VAR whether for or against without being told to fuck off.

 

[give it to gordon]

As I said in the premier league match thread, there is no way VAR should have been need for the penalty or the red. The question should be if the match ref needs VAR for those than he shouldn't be ref'ing at any level. But thankfully VAR was there to bail him out I guess

 

[Hart of the Matter]

Ok so why you bothering posting about refs decisions if you no longer go or watch matches.
This is a VAR debate, Posters are allowed to debate VAR whether for or against without being told to fuck off.

When someone kills your passion in life or stands by and tries to justify it they should be told to fuck off. So fuck off (and i dont usually swear)
Ps. Your ever presence on these boards is suspicious. For you to then tell me - a long standing BLUE and poster- i shouldn't be posting just shows your arrogance. So fuck off again. Please report me if it offends.

 

[Hart of the Matter]

As I said in the premier league match thread, there is no way VAR should have been need for the penalty or the red. The question should be if the match ref needs VAR for those than he shouldn't be ref'ing at any level. But thankfully VAR was there to bail him out I guess

VAR to bail him out maybe the very reason he didnt give them. Helps avoid a hostile crowd decision especially against the home team (both of which were) Its called cause and effect. VAR will see refs and assistant refs not making decisions more often. Pointless to then say VAR cleared it up when VAR has created the none decision making environment in the first place.

 

[Blue Llama]

If VAR has to be used for such obvious decisions we may as well use referees from as low as the Div 2 league and rely on VAR to make up for their lack of experience as it did yesterday.

 

[Ric]

Good to see Anthony Taylor’s incompetence being highlighted by VAR yesterday. Was ridiculous that he initially awarded a free kick to Spurs.

 

[give it to gordon]

watched the spurs chelsea game and in the 2nd half when spurs player dele alli was offside and the ref played and give a freekick because the officials missed it ? but they went and reviewed it for a pen meaning they could call the offside if it was a pen, but the fool was outside the box so the freekick had to stand ????? WHY

So if VAR had given a penalty we would than had VAR reviewing the VAR decision to give a penalty. And than having the VAR penalty overturn by the VAR off side before the VAR penalty...

 

[ancoats]

So if VAR had given a penalty we would than had VAR reviewing the VAR decision to give a penalty. And than having the VAR penalty overturn by the VAR off side before the VAR penalty...

yep ?????

 

[BlueHammer85]

When someone kills your passion in life or stands by and tries to justify it they should be told to fuck off. So fuck off (and i dont usually swear)
Ps. Your ever presence on these boards is suspicious. For you to then tell me - a long standing BLUE and poster- i shouldn't be posting just shows your arrogance. So fuck off again. Please report me if it offends.

nah, not offended and i've never reported anyone, i'm just here debating VAR - I've stated many times my grievances with it aswell, but for me it has to be the way forward - as refs without technological help would equally kill the game for me.
Hopefully in time it will be more transparent and improve and you'll come back. Have a good crimbo Blue.

 

[Hart of the Matter]

nah, not offended and i've never reported anyone, i'm just here debating VAR - I've stated many times my grievances with it aswell, but for me it has to be the way forward - as refs without technological help would equally kill the game for me.
Hopefully in time it will be more transparent and improve and you'll come back. Have a good crimbo Blue.

If that is truly the case, how did you get into the game in the first place?
You are talking bullshit.
As for my returning to the game, i may start watching more but my engagement in the action will be 0%. As BB King sang.. 'the thrill has gone'

 

[city saint]

Good to see Anthony Taylor’s incompetence being highlighted by VAR yesterday. Was ridiculous that he initially awarded a free kick to Spurs.

agree although v a r if used as it was yesterday ive no argument with it .its the forensic looking for mm offside and the stupid handball rule for attackers but not defenders that I have issue with

 

[Ric]

agree although v a r if used as it was yesterday ive no argument with it .its the forensic looking for mm offside and the stupid handball rule for attackers but not defenders that I have issue with

Agreed. I’m not anti-VAR per se, but the way it’s being used so far is nonsense and spoiling the game.

 

[Hart of the Matter]

Agreed. I’m not anti-VAR per se, but the way it’s being used so far is nonsense and spoiling the game.

This far into the season and I still do not celebrate goals anymore. I no longer seek out or go to matches. Brother in law had game on tv on saturday. None of the goals moved me to lose my shit. Genuine question to other Blues. Do you still celebrate all goals like before?

 

[Blue Mist]

watched the spurs chelsea game and in the 2nd half when spurs player dele alli was offside and the ref played and give a freekick because the officials missed it ? but they went and reviewed it for a pen meaning they could call the offside if it was a pen, but the fool was outside the box so the freekick had to stand ????? WHY

I was as bemused as you over that one. He was clearly offside. If he had scored it would have been ruled out so surely the same applies for any other incident afterwards, foul, penalty whatever. Play should have been brought back for the offside and a free kick awarded to Chelsea. As we keep saying, it is not VAR that is wrong, it is the officials (corrupt or otherwise) making it up as they go along.

 

[blueinsa]

This far into the season and I still do not celebrate goals anymore. I no longer seek out or go to matches. Brother in law had game on tv on saturday. None of the goals moved me to lose my shit. Genuine question to other Blues. Do you still celebrate all goals like before?

No.

Like yourself the joy has been sucked out of the game and if you do watch you spend anytime after a goal waiting for them to rule it out.

Its a shit show.

 

[Blue Mist]

Good to see Anthony Taylor’s incompetence being highlighted by VAR yesterday. Was ridiculous that he initially awarded a free kick to Spurs.

Incompetence or corruption ? Perhaps someone wanted the score to be 1-0 at half time ? I know you don't buy the betting/corruption theory but I cannot accept that an experienced referee like Taylor can give a foul for Spurs.

 

[Ric]

This far into the season and I still do not celebrate goals anymore. I no longer seek out or go to matches. Brother in law had game on tv on saturday. None of the goals moved me to lose my shit. Genuine question to other Blues. Do you still celebrate all goals like before?

Yeah, must admit that my enjoyment of goals nowadays is tempered by the expectation that VAR might rule it out. I don't get that explosion of joy that I used to get when City score.