Wolves - post match

samarasra said:
Stats and facts are not one and the same thing. By those stats Alisson has made 18 saves, how did he manage to get into a team 13 points ahead in the PL. Look at the top 6, what a coincidence they have also conceded the most goals. Top of your stats list is Leno with 76 saves, he conceded 28 goals, Ederson has only conceded 17, in spite of playing in front of a weakened defence. Instead of typing "facts" in capitals try looking at this it is far more enjoyable than stats that can be manipulated to fit any narrative.
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Okay........so what you are saying is, you only ever agree with Statistic's that support your narrative ?

I send you this Seasons official Premier League Statistics on "SAVES".Then you start waffling on about other statistics having just said that basically they dont tell the real story,and are a load of shit.Make your mind up ffs.

I am talking only about "SAVES"

I have only ever been talking about "SAVES"

Whats with the Youtube video ?
 
citymad said:
Serious question: so far this season which of the current City team would get into the LiVARpool first eleven? Never thought I’d ask this so soon after our title win.
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As much as I hate to admit and say, don't say LiVarpool anymore. VAR has nothing to do with their success. That same VAR came to our aid yesterday. Be a gentleman and admit that.
 
Keeper! said:
Who has said world class, we just need a defensive CB who is reliable and not a mess like JFS.

Mendy last night made a school boy error, simply not acceptable from a 50m footballer.
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Have you forgotten how good he was prior to his injury? He has potential, alot of it. Be patient my friend, this team is in transition.
 
samarasra said:
Stats and facts are not one and the same thing. By those stats Alisson has made 18 saves, how did he manage to get into a team 13 points ahead in the PL. Look at the top 6, what a coincidence they have also conceded the most goals. Top of your stats list is Leno with 76 saves, he conceded 28 goals, Ederson has only conceded 17, in spite of playing in front of a weakened defence. Instead of typing "facts" in capitals try looking at this it is far more enjoyable than stats that can be manipulated to fit any narrative.
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SidJames said:
Okay........"so what you are saying is, you only ever agree with Statistic's that support your narrative ?"

I send you this Seasons official Premier League Statistics on "SAVES".Then you start waffling on about other statistics having just said that basically they dont tell the real story,and are a load of shit.Make your mind up ffs.

I am talking only about "SAVES"

I have only ever been talking about "SAVES"

Whats with the Youtube video ?
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" he rarely if ever makes a decent save" " rarely saves fuck all " These are your words. You back up your "I dont actually rate Ederson as a Keeper" by reference to a list of the most saves by PL keeper this season showing the top man, Leno made 76 saves but conceded 28 goals, do you rate him above Ederson who "only" made 39 saves and "only" conceded 17 goals or Alisson has "only" made 18 saves and conceded 5 goals. None of those stats prove which keeper is best without the context of other information so why use it to show why you don't rate Ederson.
"so what you are saying is, you only ever agree with Statistic's that support your narrative ?"Again you miss the point, I never said when I agree with stats, I said in plain English, "stats that can be manipulated to fit any narrative" so here the stats prove LENO made the most saves & conceded the most goals but they don't prove that Leno is the best at saving unless we examine the context of how those stats came about. I am sorry that you cannot understand the point I was making, perhaps you are too anxious to be right, to bother to read it properly. Then you claim I said stats, "are a load of shit.Make your mind up ffs." Try again you'll never see where I wrote those words. So it seems you are "talking only about "SAVES" hence the saves pl league table which does not prove your point one way or the other. "what's with the You Tube video" well just 10 mins of Ederson making good, half decent, decent and world class save clearly showing you're "rarely and fuck all " are somewhat inaccurate.
 
Im hoping we retain the FA Cup, somehow with our tactical naivety i dont think we are winning the Champs League.

Im hoping im wrong, but i dont see us getting past RM to be honest.
 
Shambles really and we won’t defend the title this season, consider this a post celebration hangover. but I still believe we will bounce back next season.

FA Cup, Carabao and the CL trophy then ending the season 2nd or 3rd will hurt less.
 
Feeling crushed after that result. I didn’t even watch the 2nd half as the wife wanted to watch a film.

On the plus side....Knives Out is great quirky fun.
 
After that comedy, I’m going to say we won’t finish in top 4.
There’s a serious problem with the team and it’s rife through the main lazy crew. How KDB, Bernardo Rodri and Ferni haven’t grabbed the usual joggers/lazy runners by the neck is unbelievable.
Always going to get sent off doing that, but fcuk me, I thought he’d been hit by a 50 cal sniper. He rolled faster than Otamendi was running. Pathetic play acting. Lots of it last night and we fell for it all the time, instead of either copying it or slowing down the play by keeping the ball.
SU probably can’t wait to play us after this comedy. Can’t see us progressing past RM in CL, we will be very lucky to get to SF of FA or CC if we don’t sort out this defensive debacle.
My other worry is that Sané is watching this and probably has one foot out the door, why would he want to come back to this shambles.
Mahrez is stealing a wage here, he’s got talent, but lazy and predictable.
Mendy should never put in a city shirt again, unless it’s to go to a bbq.
My rage is still burning, we had more than enough quality to defend a 2 goal lead with 10 men, why weren’t we able to do that??????? Inexcusable.
 
rnblade said:
We have more chance of winning the National Lottery than winning every game. Have you seen our defence? It’s like watching a poor Sunday pub team.
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Funnily enough though, as bad as our defence is, three schoolboy howlers actually cost us the game. You know who you are - Ederson, Sterling and Mendy.
 
axlgod said:
Feeling crushed after that result. I didn’t even watch the 2nd half as the wife wanted to watch a film.

On the plus side....Knives Out is great quirky fun.
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Since the debacle at Norwich, where again my 8yr old neice could run past our stupid tactics in defence, im used to it.

And it wasnt a suprise to me to see Ederson take an early bath, you score we score type of football, wins you fuck all come May.
 
Marvin said:
We don't have that many problems. There is one glaring weakness in our side.

There are of course other positions where we have ordinary players but it's fundamentally the same squad that took 198 points minus Kompany (who didn't play much), and D.Silva (Bernado and KDB) cover him, and Fernaindinho (and Rodri may or may not be able to cover for him).

Get Laporte back, and we could win the Champions League. If he struggles, and we're stuck with Fern and Ota then Utd could do us again. This side can not defend against forwards who run at our central defence. Otamendi dives in and sometimes he makes it, but sometime he doesn't. Fern has maybe had 1-2 good games in central defence but for the most part he is even more of a liability than Ota.

This is a huge flaw in our side but the remedy is straightforward. Get Stones and Laporte back. Stones it seems doesn't have Pep's confidence to play on his own.
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The fact we persist in playing such a high line with a defence we know has no pace isn't the issue then? Give me a break mate, absolutely NO chance of winning the Champs League, no chance, we come unstuck against any team with pace who can ping a ball over the top because we don't adapt whatsoever.
 
Bill said:
Except we gifted them 2 goals
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That's what happens when player's get tired. Wolves are a tough team to beat 11 vs 11. Even the world champion dipper team would struggle playing Wolves for 78 minutes.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
It was decent and in pretty good spirit among the fans - apart from a City fan after the game taking the piss out of a Wolves fan’s Wolverhampton accent; which is fair comment imo*

*Love Wolverhampton people btw. The nicest people.
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Their fans are tossers in my experience, bully boys. I am sure the real folk are pleasant enough but on many occasions they seem to like bother.
 
What struck me yesterday after Edersons exit was our lack of control and ball retention other than very sporadic spells. Our shape was also all over the place. Wtf was that about. Still trying to work out was it a back 5 with Garcia, Fern and Ota as CB or was Fern supposed to move forward alongside Rodri. I saw Stirling as a lone outlet for much of the second half which meant we had at least 8 players who should have been attempting to control a two goal league. Words fail me we were just so poor. Are we so lacking in a plan B that we cant just close down a game by flooding the midfield and retaining the ball. It sure looked like it. Comedy defending for their goals but so so poor in general.

I think we will make top 4 but there will be more nights like tonight. Really not sure what is going on in this camp.
 
I’m more annoyed that I called 3-2 at 2-1 down and didn’t get a bet on it!

We move on. A difficult season but all is not lost.
 
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