The Labour Party

[Chippy_boy]

You're a Tory bot and I claim my job seekers allowance.

He may be a Tory but he's spot on, and you are in complete denial.

Nothing changes.

 

[hammocity]

You're a Tory bot and I claim my job seekers allowance.

Never voted Tory in my life, was a Labour voter from 1979 to Blair’s last election. I, like many of my friends and acquaintances refused to vote for the Left wing fantasist Corbyn. There’s a lot of lost Labour votes because of him, he’s not trustworthy and his policies were fiscally unrealistic. Brexit, defence and his Shadow Cabinet as well as his own unpopularity lost the last election, the party is a mess. BTW, I claimed JSA for a few weeks in 2000 when I became unemployed after working continuously for 25 years, I don’t begrudge that benefit to anyone genuinely seeking work.

edit, I must confess that I liked David Cameron, like Tony Blair he was a proper Statesman, was sorry to see him go.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Never voted Tory in my life, was a Labour voter from 1979 to Blair’s last election. I, like many of my friends and acquaintances refused to vote for the Left wing fantasist Corbyn. There’s a lot of lost Labour votes because of him, he’s not trustworthy and his policies were fiscally unrealistic. Brexit, defence and his Shadow Cabinet as well as his own unpopularity lost the last election, the party is a mess. BTW, I claimed JSA for a few weeks in 2000 when I became unemployed after working continuously for 25 years, I don’t begrudge that benefit to anyone genuinely seeking work.

edit, I must confess that I liked David Cameron, like Tony Blair he was a proper Statesman, was sorry to see him go.

That would be the man who gave us austerity and Brexit.

 

[The perfect fumble]

He may be a Tory but he's spot on, and you are in complete denial.

Nothing changes.

You can't know I'm in denial.

 

[robbieh]

Which basically means Johnson can do what the f*** he wants; including going full Trump batshit crazy, safe in the knowledge there isn't an electable opposition.

And going full Trump batshit crazy is electable. If so that's a damning indightment of the electorate.

 

[hammocity]

That would be the man who gave us austerity and Brexit.

Yes, he gave us financial reality and a democratic vote on our European membership.

 

[Chippy_boy]

You can't know I'm in denial.

You mean the dirty great big neon sign means nothing?

 

[The perfect fumble]

You mean the dirty great big neon sign means nothing?

Take your cosy stereotypes and shove em where the sun don't shine.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Yes, he gave us financial reality and a democratic vote on our European membership.

Blair gave guys like you the opportunity to vote Tory in all but name and Call me Dave gave you licence to vote Tory and not feel guilty about it.

 

[Ban-jani]

Which basically means Johnson can do what the f*** he wants; including going full Trump batshit crazy, safe in the knowledge there isn't an electable opposition.

I sigh every single time I read this.

 

[hammocity]

Blair gave guys like you the opportunity to vote Tory in all but name and Call me Dave gave you licence to vote Tory and not feel guilty about it.

Fair enough but there’s a lot of us with the same opinion and not enough of you to vote in a left wing government.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Fair enough but there’s a lot of us with the same opinion and not enough of you to vote in a left wing government.

Why don't you vote Lib Dem then?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Take your cosy stereotypes and shove em where the sun don't shine.

OK perma-loser. I mean no insult by that by the way (though feel free), merely a reflection of your political ambitions.

 

[The perfect fumble]

OK perma-loser. I mean no insult by that by the way (though feel free), merely a reflection of your political ambitions.

You don't know anything about me, you just project your stereotypes and prejudices on to the people who disagree with you.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

There is a part of the Wrong-Daily CV that doesn't add up to me. I see she that after working in a call centre and as a postal worker she did a degree in Politics & Sociology at Man Met. She then did some part time 'conversion' modules to become a solicitor and now she is being touted as a former corporate lawyer.

Hundreds of thousands of people have done actual law degrees and then struggle to get a job in the legal profession so I am very dubious about her claims. At best I assume she was a legal secretary or similar.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

No strong feelings about Long Bailey either way, but her desire to mix patriotism (nationalism) with socialism concerns me. Although I'm sure her intentions are purely to appeal to a broad electoral church history suggests it's a dangerous combination

 

[blueparrot]

Blair gave guys like you the opportunity to vote Tory in all but name and Call me Dave gave you licence to vote Tory and not feel guilty about it.

And guys like Foot and Corbyn gave us Thatcher and Johnson. Until the Labour left and its membership take responsibilty for it's self indulgent selfish ideology we will get right wing tory governments.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

There is a part of the Wrong-Daily CV that doesn't add up to me. I see she that after working in a call centre and as a postal worker she did a degree in Politics & Sociology at Man Met. She then did some part time 'conversion' modules to become a solicitor and now she is being touted as a former corporate lawyer.

Hundreds of thousands of people have done actual law degrees and then struggle to get a job in the legal profession so I am very dubious about her claims. At best I assume she was a legal secretary or similar.

She worked at Pinsent Mason in manchester - a mid size law firm. She is a qualified lawyer and the work she did would have been charged out as such but typically in such firms the Partners front the work and big teams of associates (junior but qualified lawyers) do all the donkey work in the background. Its a similar volume recruitment process to many professional firms, it is hard but not impossible to get in. They need lots of cheep(ish) and highly committed graduates doing all the work (long long hours) but once said people have 4 or 5 years experience they get picked off by other smaller firms or into working for corporates as in house lawyers so lots of churn - accountancy is exactly the same (Plus many drop out as they can't hack it). Its a well trodden path - no reason to doubt it.

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

No strong feelings about Long Bailey either way, but her desire to mix patriotism (nationalism) with socialism concerns me. Although I'm sure her intentions are purely to appeal to a broad electoral church history suggests it's a dangerous combination

national socialism, where have we heard of that before? and she was, as she puts it, "born to the roar of the Stretford End".

 

[mcfc1632]

£100 wins you £250 profit in Betfred if you're that confident.

I have already done that bet

I see it as a 50/50 chance - so it is simply good business