Another new Brexit thread

[blueinsa]

No. I’m not counting the GE as a referendum like you are.

For a campaign that we are told consistently has more votes you dont half keep losing?

I will leave you to the comfort blanket that more people want to remain than leave.

 

[west didsblue]

For a campaign that we are told consistently has more votes you dont half keep losing?

I will leave you to the comfort blanket that more people want to remain than leave.

I didn’t say that either. I’m not sure what you’re on about and I don’t really care.

 

[blueinsa]

I don’t really care.

Clearly evident from the last 3 years.

 

[west didsblue]

Clearly evident from the last 3 years.

Correct.
You're simplistic views on any topic you post about hold no interest to me.

 

[smudgedj]

For a campaign that we are told consistently has more votes you dont half keep losing?

I will leave you to the comfort blanket that more people want to remain than leave.

Remain is more popular; it's just that fewer people vote for it. Lol

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Millions of citizens of course want to remain but yet again, at the ballot box the electorate had a very clear choice between remain and leave at the GE and overwhelmingly voted for the leave option.

It is not split nearly as much as many want us to believe mate.

That answer is at odds with what you’ve previously posted about (inter alia) Corbyn. Are you now suggesting the only factor at the GE as to people’s vote was Brexit?

 

[blueinsa]

That answer is at odds with what you’ve previously posted about (inter alia) Corbyn. Are you now suggesting the only factor at the GE as to people’s vote was Brexit?

I've always said the the GE was the brexit election.

I get many didn't like Corbyn personally but for me, his stance on brexit and him allowing many of his shadow front bench to very publicly declare themselves as remainers along with the contrived shit that was we will negotiate a great deal then campaign against it lost Labour many many seats and any hope of at least a hung parliament if not outright power.

It was a disaster for them.

"Get Brexit Done" just got an 80 seat majority.

 

[Metal Biker]

4% doesn’t seem to be all that overwhelming to me.
The general election was won because Corbyn is perceived to be some kind of monster hellbent on destroying the U.K. I’m sure Brexit had its part to play but I think it’s still a valid point by GDM that the country is split.

By the same token, remaining in the EU and support for the EU isn't anything like what remainers would have you believe.

facts are that the majority of people in the UK don't love/care about the EU but it's the ones that cared enough to leave it, who made their voices heard, that have dictated the national direction, and certainly not the remainers who are a bigger minority voice than they think.

 

[Phil1]

By the same token, remaining in the EU and support for the EU isn't anything like what remainers would have you believe.

facts are that the majority of people in the UK don't love/care about the EU but it's the ones that cared enough to leave it, who made their voices heard, that have dictated the national direction, and certainly not the remainers who are a bigger minority voice than they think.

Hope it works out for you all.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

4% doesn’t seem to be all that overwhelming to me.
The general election was won because Corbyn is perceived to be some kind of monster hellbent on destroying the U.K. I’m sure Brexit had its part to play but I think it’s still a valid point by GDM that the country is split.

it’s only split because people who want to stay in the eu won’t accept the democratic result of the nation 3 times now.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

"Get Brexit Done" just got an 80 seat majority.

With 43% of the vote. I thought you supported changing our voting system because it was unrepresentative and unfair, or have I got that wrong?

 

[blueinsa]

With 43% of the vote. I thought you supported changing our voting system because it was unrepresentative and unfair, or have I got that wrong?

Im happy to change it going forwards, yes but the current rules where in place for this election and it delivered a huge majority for the party that wanted to get brexit done.

43% doesnt tell the full story. Over 1 million Scots voted to leave the EU but because they delivered a stomping SNP majority up here doesnt mean they are all suddenly remain. Same in Wales for the near 900,000 that voted to leave and the near 400,000 in NI.

If the country was as remain as is made out, its had the ref, the 2017 GE and the 2019 GE to make it very clear and it simply has not done that.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

If the country was as remain as is made out, its had the ref, the 2017 GE and the 2019 GE to make it very clear and it simply has not done that.

Made out by whom? I’ve said that the country is pretty much spilt down the middle, a contention which the foregoing results would support.

 

[Metal Biker]

Made out by whom? I’ve said that the country is pretty much spilt down the middle, a contention which the foregoing results would support.

It's not split down the middle though, is it.

It's split three ways; one way anti-EU, the other pro-EU and the third are full of those who aren't as passionately bothered either way.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Made out by whom? I’ve said that the country is pretty much spilt down the middle, a contention which the foregoing results would support.

We are all Leavers now..

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

It's not split down the middle though, is it.

It's split three ways; one way anti-EU, the other pro-EU and the third are full of those who aren't as passionately bothered either way.

Fair enough. Of those who are bothered either way, we are pretty much split down the middle.

 

[Metal Biker]

Fair enough. Of those who are bothered either way, we are pretty much split down the middle.

yep, I agree on that.

Like most political issues in this country, half the nation is fighting amongst itself with two polarising issues, and the other half really couldn't give a shit.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

yep, I agree on that.

Like most political issues in this country, half the nation is fighting amongst itself with two polarising issues, and the other half really couldn't give a shit.

Not sure it’s quite half and half but you’re not a million miles out.

 

[journolud]

Good point, as those who have spent the last 42 months doing there utmost to stop Brexit, and their total
commitment that the EU is the place to be, I'd have thought that a 'Rejoin' movement would have started.
Maybe it's the fact that after a referendum, a GE, and yet another GE, that has consistently indicated the country's desire to quit
has tempered that movement somewhat.

Maybe it’s too early for a rejoin movement as we haven’t actually left yet. Also suspect most remainders like me are resolved to the situation and waiting to see how it all pans out. If the worst predictions are true expect some moves to rejoin in the next year or two, if they will have us.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Remain is more popular; it's just that fewer people vote for it. Lol

They didn’t though. At the last GE more people voted for a pro Remain or pro confirmatory ref party than they did for pro Brexit. Our fptp system delivered the result, a complete failure for tactical voting.