Liverpool thread 2019/20

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Ric said:
I'll never understand why anyone gives a shit how "big" their club is (or indeed know what barometer they're using). Needless to say, it tends to be Liverpool and United fans who obsess about it more than any others.
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It’s pitiful that people think it’s important, and worse, is something to lord over others. How fucking insecure do you need to be to do that?

The barometers Liverpool supporters use is success from 1965 to 1990 btw.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Talking of which, the Heysel thread on RAWK makes interesting reading if you’ve got a spare four minutes (to read it in its entirety). I expect you’ll need much longer to find it mind, as it’s not been bumped for a few years I’ll hazard.
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Bruce Grobbelaar was a guest at the Icelandic Liverpool cult party few years back.
He then was at a radio station talking about is Liverpool carrier and was asked about the Heysel and he said that some Chelsea fans started it I shit you not.
 
Cityfan1977 said:
Bruce Grobbelaar was a guest at the Icelandic Liverpool cult party few years back.
He then was at a radio station talking about is Liverpool carrier and was asked about the Heysel and he said that some Chelsea fans started it I shit you not.
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They’ve got carriers now?!! Must be a bid for world domination... wait til they have a nuclear weapon! ;)
 
Cityfan1977 said:
Is this what you think happened or are you saying that this is Liverpool version.
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Certainly that is Peter Robinson’s version and by extension, I presume, the club’s. Nowhere in that article does it acknowledge the causal link between the tragedy and the truculence of a significant number of Liverpool fans. I know a little about this event and some of the points he raises are worthwhile, in terms of ticketing and the state of the stadium, both of which were below-par by the standards of the time; however, for me, that is all lost in a fog of denial.

I wonder what the purpose of that article was, when it was published in 2013. I’ll wager the club will have been behind it.
 
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Mike Cathcart said:
That article by Robinson left me feeling disgusted. It's literally 'never our fault' blaming anybody but their own part, especially the mystery Cockneys.

I find it strange that he happened to have tje club solicitor with him in the aftermath. Any ideas, Gordon?
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That will have simply been prudence on his part. That part of the article displays a sense of someone doing his job well tbf.
 
Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
I had a quick look. It's incredible. Why are they so bitter? Because they never won a league title for fifty years perhaps? Just another football club.
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All clubs have their dark history, and no club is ‘better’ than any other. To fail to realise this, is to fail to understand what really matters about supporting a club.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Certainly that is Peter Robinson’s version and by extension, I presume, the club’s. Nowhere in that article does it acknowledge the causal link between the tragedy and the truculence of a significant number of Liverpool fans. I know a little about this event and some of the points he raises are worthwhile, in terms of ticketing and the state of the stadium, both of which were sub-standard by the standards of the time; however, for me, that is all lost in a fog of denial.

I wonder what the purpose of that article was, when it was published in 2013. I’ll wager the club will have been behind it.
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I find this very strange

"An independent inquiry in Belgium found that Liverpool was in no way to blame. The main blame lay with the Belgian FA and security.
“In the end English clubs were banned from Europe for six years and we one year longer"


So why the ban if Liverpool was in no way to blame?
 
Cityfan1977 said:
I find this very strange

"An independent inquiry in Belgium found that Liverpool was in no way to blame. The main blame lay with the Belgian FA and security.
“In the end English clubs were banned from Europe for six years and we one year longer"


So why the ban if Liverpool was in no way to blame?
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It’s a very carefully worded statement from start to finish, which raised my suspicions about the motive behind it.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Certainly that is Peter Robinson’s version and by extension, I presume, the club’s. Nowhere in that article does it acknowledge the causal link between the tragedy and the truculence of a significant number of Liverpool fans. I know a little about this event and some of the points he raises are worthwhile, in terms of ticketing and the state of the stadium, both of which were below-par by the standards of the time; however, for me, that is all lost in a fog of denial.

I wonder what the purpose of that article was, when it was published in 2013. I’ll wager the club will have been behind it.
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And another thing why did all english clubs get a ban I have never got a answer about that.
 
Cityfan1977 said:
And another thing why did all english clubs get a ban I have never got a answer about that.
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That was inevitable. Heysel didn’t occur in a vacuum. This followed on from over a decade of English supporters terrorising Europe, to paraphrase Big Mal. It was the right decision to ban all English clubs imo.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
That will have simply been prudence on his part. That part of the article displays a sense of someone doing his job well tbf.
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Not looking for esrly excuses for absolving blame?

I wonder if a solicitor ran through the article
A little bit of humility and humanity would not have gone amiss.
 
Mike Cathcart said:
Not looking for esrly excuses for absolving blame?

I wonder if a solicitor ran through the article
A little bit of humility and humanity would not have gone amiss.
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I can’t answer your first question with any certainty, but he seems the calculating type and wouldn’t be the first person to think in this way. Far from it.

Without doubt. I’ve previously posted about believing the club were behind it.

The article read very cold and calculating to me.
 
Noticed a comment on one of the Heysel threads on RAWK which says “Could easily have been 39 Liverpool fans.”

Not sure what that poster is trying to say with that.
 
On sly sports news now about how Liverpool have the best crop of kids since 92.
 
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