Another new Brexit thread

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Mëtal Bikër said:
Yep, remind me again why i'm supposed to care about your situation when you clearly don't care about mine.

Wealth snobbery. Ironically you're probably one of those in your own social circles talking about "the poor" and "how the minimum wage should be £10 an hour"

Ahhh, you poke around long enough and that veil of self-righteousness is soon lifted, eh.
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The only people who appear to be so concerned about poor workers are those worth a good few quid.
You can see how they lose elections, yet it seems to baffle them why.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
The only people who appear to be so concerned about poor workers are those worth a good few quid.
You can see how they lose elections, yet it seems to baffle them why.
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Champagne socialists never surprise me these days.

Always refreshing to out them and expose their faux socialist schtick.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Yep, remind me again why i'm supposed to care about your situation when you clearly don't care about mine.

Wealth snobbery. Ironically you're probably one of those in your own social circles talking about "the poor" and "how the minimum wage should be £10 an hour"

Ahhh, you poke around long enough and that veil of self-righteousness is soon lifted, eh.
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Can't say I have an opinion on what the minimum wage should be, but do believe we're a wealthy enough nation to have good welfare provisions for those that need it if that's what you're suggesting.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
The only people who appear to be so concerned about poor workers are those worth a good few quid.
You can see how they lose elections, yet it seems to baffle them why.
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It is ironic I suppose that having been on the losing side of most of the elections I've voted in, lower taxation levels have helped me put more money away and allowed me to become a 'champagne socialist'.
 
joe123 said:
Can't say I have an opinion on what the minimum wage should be, but do believe we're a wealthy enough nation to have good welfare provisions for those that need it if that's what you're suggesting.
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Because that's how people get to retire in Europe with a second home, isn't it. "poor" workers should be reliant on welfare to get by. If we cannot afford bread, we should eat cake, is that it?

Give. Me. Strength. It's like a whole other world to you, isn't it.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Because that's how people get to retire in Europe with a second home, isn't it. "poor" workers should be reliant on welfare to get by. If we cannot afford bread, we should eat cake, is that it?

Give. Me. Strength. It's like a whole other world to you, isn't it.
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You've lost me.
 
Blue Hefner said:
What does 'champagne socialist' actually mean?
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Mëtal Bikër said:
Because that's how people get to retire in Europe with a second home, isn't it. "poor" workers should be reliant on welfare to get by.

Give. Me. Strength. It's like a whole other world to you, isn't it.
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Poor people on a state pension could retire to a healthier climate in the EU , and receive health care and any other help they needed.Poor people on little or no income, ie people such as yourself, could just up sticks and go and look for a job in the EU and maybe change their life . Those are the sort of people that are in danger losing that ability to change their lives. Not the rich, they still will be able to.
 
hgblue said:
The vast majority of the people complaining about losing the right to live and work in the EU have no intention of exercising that right. The percentage is tiny and most of them are middle class relatively well off people who don't give a fuck that freedom of movement has provided a steady stream of low skilled migrants that have suppressed the wages of working class people for years, and the vast majority of them will be granted a visa if they apply for one.
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Spoke to them all have you?
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Because that's how people get to retire in Europe with a second home, isn't it. "poor" workers should be reliant on welfare to get by. If we cannot afford bread, we should eat cake, is that it?

Give. Me. Strength. It's like a whole other world to you, isn't it.
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I think you will find that most of the brits who live in spain / portugal sold up to move there and did so because life is cheaper. They will be fucked if they have to move back.
 
blueparrot said:
Poor people on a state pension could retire to a healthier climate in the EU , and receive health care and any other help they needed.Poor people on little or no income, ie people such as yourself, could just up sticks and go and look for a job in the EU and maybe change their life . Those are the sort of people that are in danger losing that ability to change their lives. Not the rich, they still will be able to.
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Yeah, you only get a state pension if you pay into it. How do you do that on £650 a month, with expenses to pay for?

You starting to get the whole "we're not being paid enough to live on and the exploitation of cheap labour by European/UK businesses hasn't helped" argument, yet?
 
Gaudion M said:
I think you will find that most of the brits who live in spain / portugal sold up to move there and did so because life is cheaper. They will be fucked if they have to move back.
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They'll be fine, we have a great welfare system to fall back on, apparently.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Rich man with two properties, one abroad, lectures young man saddled with mountains of debt by his generation and living in a rented accomodation, about it now being slightly more expensive and inconvenient about living out dream retirement destination.

I'm writing the screenplay already, it'll be a real tearjerker ;)
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A crocodile tearjerker?

I shouldn't really but I can't help myself.
At one time I enjoyed this thread.
I used to find dropping in here for the occasional snippets of actual information about what is going on over with you lot worth it.
Educational at times. But it's become increasingly not worth engaging with.
 
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