We’ve been told all season , touches the arm , deliberate or not it’s a pen , we’ve had to take the Laporte disallowed goal because it’s the new rule .
2 blatant ones at Anfield & the pen today denied because ‘it wasn’t deliberate’ , stick the game up your arse i’m Finished .
A game i’ve Understood all my life I now don’t understand...it’s a bitter pillWe haven't, but we've been told an equally farcical version.
If the ball accidentally hits a DEFENDER's arm - no pen.
If the ball accidentally hit an ATTACKER's arm - no goal.
So, 2 players, standing side by side, adhering to 2 different laws. Absolutely farcical.
We haven't, but we've been told an equally farcical version.
If the ball accidentally hits a DEFENDER's arm - no pen.
If the ball accidentally hit an ATTACKER's arm - no goal.
So, 2 players, standing side by side, adhering to 2 different laws. Absolutely farcical.
Cut to Europe and that today IS a penalty.
I hope that what comes out of this is IFAB going for the throat of PiGMOB and them being fucked off from the game for good.
My personal opinion is that it's not a penalty, but also, I don't think Jesus' goal vSpurs should ever be ruled out, either.
Still, I'd fuck VAR right off, what a load of toss.
Just because we didn't play well does not excuse var decisions that we don't get when our rivals do,it's a mixture this season,aside from the dippers every fan base sings fuck var,i was very for it but it's taking corruption to a whole new levelYes there was a penalty, yes VAR is sh*t. But we just can blame it anymore... We need to face it, we just play bad. I don’t know what the problem is, but we had this game 2:1. We just couldn’t hold the ball. Palace had 3 shots on target and 2 goals... ffs! Pep need to change something, maybe sign some players... For me Mahrez had to start... also we should really fix our defense before the RM game...
Why was our winning goal v Spurs ruled out then ? None of that applies if you’re LiverpoolI hate VAR and want it gone but today's penalty just isn't a penalty.
HANDLING THE BALL
It is an offence if a player:
It is usually an offence if a player:
- deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball
- gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
- scores in the opponents’ goal
- creates a goal-scoring opportunity
- scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
- touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
- the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
- the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:
- directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
Accidental handball can still be awarded as a penalty if the arm is in an unnatural place , makes the body wider. So if the ref today awarded that a pen, why does the VAR ref overrule it? As clearly that is not a clear and obvious error? Either the people.in stockley Park don't know the rules and are incompetant. Or they are corrupt.We haven't, but we've been told an equally farcical version.
If the ball accidentally hits a DEFENDER's arm - no pen.
If the ball accidentally hit an ATTACKER's arm - no goal.
So, 2 players, standing side by side, adhering to 2 different laws. Absolutely farcical.
I hate VAR and want it gone but today's penalty just isn't a penalty.
HANDLING THE BALL
It is an offence if a player:
It is usually an offence if a player:
- deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball
- gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
- scores in the opponents’ goal
- creates a goal-scoring opportunity
- scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
- touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
- the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
- the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:
- directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
Why was our winning goal v Spurs ruled out then ? None of that applies if you’re Liverpool
Accidental handball can still be awarded as a penalty if the arm is in an unnatural place , makes the body wider. So if the ref today awarded that a pen, why does the VAR ref overrule it? As clearly that is not a clear and obvious error? Either the people.in stockley Park don't know the rules and are incompetant. Or they are corrupt.
It’s not what they are awarded , it’s what teams playing them are NOT awarded, that’s where the cheating liesThe winner against Spurs was farcical, I have said that else where that the VAR guys getting out microscopes to find reasons to rule out goals is not in the spirit of the game.
If you can show me an example Liverpool of being awarded a penalty (this season) after a defender deflected the ball on to his own hand or arm then I will donate £50 to a charity of your choice.
What would we do without you telling us we are wrong on different threads,spurs fan you say...I hate VAR and want it gone but today's penalty just isn't a penalty.
HANDLING THE BALL
It is an offence if a player:
It is usually an offence if a player:
- deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball
- gains possession/control of the ball after it has touched their hand/arm and then:
- scores in the opponents’ goal
- creates a goal-scoring opportunity
- scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
The above offences apply even if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from the head or body (including the foot) of another player who is close.
- touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
- the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
- the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)
Except for the above offences, it is not usually an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:
- directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
Accidental handball can still be awarded as a pen if the hand is in an unnatural position. The Palace player had his arm out horizontally surely that is unnatural??Before I get slaughtered for this I want to add to that I'm a referee in schoolboy football. When we done the seminar last September on the law change with regards handball we were shown around 10 examples similar or even more obvious than today's and at least 95% of the room said they would award penalties in all the examples. Under last season's laws that would have been given but under the latest laws it is the correct decision.
Accidental handball can still be awarded as a pen if the hand is in an unnatural position. The Palace player had his arm out horizontally surely that is unnatural??