Another new Brexit thread

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hgblue said:
I'll be interested to see what Remainers will do when the economy ticks along quite nicely after we leave? Words like disaster, catastrophe, recession, have been thrown around and anyone who disagreed labelled an idiot......
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Simple they will either say it would have been even better had we stayed in or true to character see their arse if someone mentions it. Stop gloating they will sniff even though they have gleefully been involved on this toxic thread for years.

They don't take disappointment very well as we have seen.
 
Blue Hefner said:
That would be a change to pre-election suggestions. Was it not Priti Patel that suggested visas would be issued only for those with a £30k p.a job to go into? We have a skill gap for fruit pickers at times during the year but the visa process for that would be timely, expensive and potentially prohibited to the farm
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What is this skill that fruit pickers need?
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
That actually adds up to a very small proportion of UK / EU trade. The German products I sell in the UK as an example would be imported under WTO terms. No deal is still a big deal for both parties.
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For NI, which is part of the UK or at least meant to be, internal UK trade is very big and important and the political consequences of it not being ‘unfettered’ are very real. A no deal scenario increases the friction on that trade and therefore the potential political fall out. Against that you have tariffs on products which is paid by the UK consumers and/or regulatory barriers that can impede UK market access. Not good news for the German company or UK consumers but as we saw with German car makers et al they are not running the show.

As with the last three years we are still struggling to deal with trade policy realities or even basic comprehension of what we have already agreed, although I take the point that listening to anything Johnson or the Govt says is largely a fools errand.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
the canada ++ deal took 7 years mate ....... and its a thin deal..
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I know, thats the big question for me. We know he must think a deal is better , far better, than no deal, otherwise just prepare and go for no deal now. So when he has to decide that negotiations are going in the right direction but won’t be done by the end of the year does he do what he says he won’t and extend ‘die in a ditch 2’. Or does he follow his pride and crash out with a no deal he knows will be bad for the country.
Or alternatively do what he did with the WA and take a version that’s already on offer from the EU off the shelf, and claim he got brexit done when he said he would just like he said he would.
 
hilts said:
What is this skill that fruit pickers need?
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I'd love you to spend a day picking fruit and veg. Bear in mind quality as well as quantity is what you are paid on when you get your hands covered in crushed strawberries and raspberries and snap asparagus off half way up you'd be breaking your back for about 90p per day. You may then understand that all jobs have skills inherent in them.
 
Ban-jani said:
I just see it pointless to continue over the same ground we have been doing to death for 3 years, arguing the pros and cons of something inevitable. I always like to look forward.

I was surprised to see the IMF report and the news that thousands of European finance companies are looking to move offices to London, which is great for our services sector. I’m not going to deny that positivity because it doesn’t fit with my previous expectations.

The argument was mostly the economy for me and our standing in the world. If there were guarantees about the economy and I had thought we’d do okay, I’d have been a Brexiteer. It now seems we probably will be alright, if not only slightly worse off and therefore my stance on remain has weakened.

Obviously there’s the negotiations to take place still but there’s quite a bit of optimism, by those responsible for predicting, that we will do average... and I’ll take that now.

Plus the GE proved once and for all that the public and those not in metropolitan bubbles, want this and I stand by them and democracy taking place.
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Where did you get the thousands of European finance companies moving to London bit from? Haven't seen that.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I'd love you to spend a day picking fruit and veg. Bear in mind quality as well as quantity is what you are paid on when you get your hands covered in crushed strawberries and raspberries and snap asparagus off half way up you'd be breaking your back for about 90p per day. You may then understand that all jobs have skills inherent in them.
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Oooh I could crush a grape

Sorry sunshine this is a skilled job and you don't possess the relevant skills.

Bollocks I turned down a job at Cern for this.

You could try pret theyre desperate over there.

Cheers mate
 
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