why is the EU putting such importance on fishing? It must be political rather than economic to keep the French on side.Anywho moving on from 50p bits Barnier has been giving Member States the big pitch to sign off on phase 2 negotiations which in no particular order are
No negotiations other than through Barnier
No upsetting the balance with existing models of cooperation, specifically Norway and Switzerland
Level playing field with mechanism to enforce transgressions
Future deal dependent on deal over fishing
Security deal important but UK can no longer access the EU information database and systems currently used by British police. Also European Arrest Warrants will not apply in Germany etc as some countries do not permit extradition to non EU countries.
EU to decide on equivalence (financial services) and data standards.
Points to note. UK wants zero tariff/zero quota deal which not even Norway and Switzerland get across the board so we have to give a lot to get that. There will be a return to barriers on trade between UK and EU though it’s just a question now of how great the barrier. Services will be impacted most and EU will only mutually recognise professional qualifications that are in the EU’s interest (obvs) otherwise its host country rules to apply which will vary.
There will be custom border checks between GB and NI which Varadkar helpfully confirmed this morning.
No great surprises in any of this.
Interesting quote from Varadkar about the Brexit process and ‘colonial’ attitude in the UK
why is the EU putting such importance on fishing? It must be political rather than economic to keep the French on side.
I can see it getting quite nippy. French will want access, UK will want frictionless trade to ensure our export market isn't damaged. Some compromises will be required.
Correct, France and Germany would never get together and tell the others what's what. Try telling that to Poland, Austria, Greece, Hungary.
Varadkar has a real bee in his bonnet.
PS Who told Ireland to vote again when they got the wrong answer in a referendum?
After Brexit, France and Germany will throw their weight around as UK can no longer object to items like the EU army, fiscal union etc.
Varadkar may be in for a big shock. The EU Central Bank (prop Germany) will rule the roost.
More opinion stated as fact.Correct, France and Germany would never get together and tell the others what's what. Try telling that to Poland, Austria, Greece, Hungary.
Varadkar has a real bee in his bonnet.
PS Who told Ireland to vote again when they got the wrong answer in a referendum?
After Brexit, France and Germany will throw their weight around as UK can no longer object to items like the EU army, fiscal union etc.
Varadkar may be in for a big shock. The EU Central Bank (prop Germany) will rule the roost.
To get Spanish agreement to any deal we'll probably have to throw Gibraltar under the bus like we did with NI. The Spanish have seen how we were prepared to do that and will therefore take a hard line because they know that this government only cares about its majority not about everyone.French and Spanish very hot on subject of fishing. And yes it’s political and symbolic as much as it is economic. EU has agreement with Norway on fishing so I guess something similar will be on the table with oversight re overfishing and management of stock. Norway will have a say in all this as well I guess.
Extraordinary. If you disagree, argue against it.More opinion stated as fact.
Naughty naughty.No one.
Not very extraordinary to be honest.Extraordinary. If you disagree, argue against it.
Naughty naughty.
What part of Ireland's 'no' does the EU not understand? https://www.theguardian.com/comment...treaty?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Varadkhar has had vanity issues throughout - and with upcoming elections will want to big himself upCorrect, France and Germany would never get together and tell the others what's what. Try telling that to Poland, Austria, Greece, Hungary.
Varadkar has a real bee in his bonnet.
PS Who told Ireland to vote again when they got the wrong answer in a referendum?
After Brexit, France and Germany will throw their weight around as UK can no longer object to items like the EU army, fiscal union etc.
Varadkar may be in for a big shock. The EU Central Bank (prop Germany) will rule the roost.
I worked there for 3 years!!! So no need to tell me the rules. You need to consider how things will develop, and it is that which worries me. Powerful interests will find a way.Not very extraordinary to be honest.
Maybe you should make yourself aware of how the various institutions of the EU actually work.
The Commission can only make proposals. They need to be agreed by the council, which includes representatives from the democratically elected governments of each member state, of which a qualified majority is required, then it needs to be ratified by the directly elected parliament. This means France and Germany can't just push things through without a further 14 to 19 countries agreeing with them depending on what the issue is. Also vetoes are still available in certain areas of policy. As nearly 90% of decisions are unanimous it doesn't sound much like every country is being forced into doing things they don't want by Germany and France.
So why did they vote again?I clicked the link. Saw the article was by Brendan O’Neill. Read it for the lols.
I repeat.
No one.
I worked there for 3 years!!! So no need to tell me the rules. You need to consider how things will develop, and it is that which worries me. Powerful interests will find a way.
Here's an example. I asked a Central banker about foreign banks operating in his country. He said that they would not be allowed. When i protested that the 2nd banking directive gave them an absolute right, he said "But we can delay them a few years, until we get our own house in order"
"But the commission....." I replied. He just laughed.
There is an extraordinary amount of horse trading to persuade smaller countries to fall into line.
That will depend at first instance on the trade deal. After that, who knows, but the attitudes I found there which worry me suggest you may be right. Don't assume I'm pro Brexit simply because I have some trenchant crits of the EU. An arrogant mistake made by @Vic the other day. I quoted Varoufakis's crits, but he is pro EU and against Brexit.What the pro Brexit brigade fail to understand is how we will get bent over by the bigger players once outside the EU. On the inside we had influence and protection.
We have opted to lube up.
You really distrust the rest of the world, don't you.What the pro Brexit brigade fail to understand is how we will get bent over by the bigger players once outside the EU. On the inside we had influence and protection.
We have opted to lube up.
Do you have any solution to offer - any handling strategy to suggest?What the pro Brexit brigade fail to understand is how we will get bent over by the bigger players once outside the EU. On the inside we had influence and protection.
We have opted to lube up.
So why did they vote again?
You are in denial.