Spurs (A) Post Match Thread

[Trojan1962]

I think Walker should be the one to stay back at the corner as he is a lot faster than the other defenders. Wise after the event I know but all these things should be considered by the manager

 

[mosssideblue]

Shoulder to shoulder isn’t a foul though

In football, a shoulder barge describes the action when a player, who is trying to get to the ball, uses his or her shoulder to push against an opposing player's shoulder – the shoulders touch. ... However, in the laws of the game a shoulder barge, or shouldercharge, is legal.

He wasn't trying to get to the ball

 

[Ric]

Didn't see exactly what Zinchenko did to get his first yellow in the melee after Gundogan's penalty, but no complaints at all about the second. It was as clear a booking as you will see, and Zinchenko himself has apologised for it. It undoubtedly cost us the game.

 

[bavarian blue]

How rough is it around sours ground by the way??

Saw a fist fight between two random blokes nothing to do with football and just an absolute shit hole.

Nice stadium though.

Everyone I have spoken to says the same.

 

[Marvin]

I think Walker should be the one to stay back at the corner as he is a lot faster than the other defenders. Wise after the event I know but all these things should be considered by the manager

We are the best coached side in the Premier League. No doubt. Individual players are making mistakes.

We were battering Spurs and they somehow survived because individual players did not do their jobs.

 

[Marvin]

Didn't see exactly what Zinchenko did to get his first yellow in the melee after Gundogan's penalty, but no complaints at all about the second. It was as clear a booking as you will see, and Zinchenko himself has apologised for it. It undoubtedly cost us the game.

Could we have stopped their goal? Even 11 v 11 it was nailed on they would score with their first shot. We were so wasteful, we were asking for it.

Half Sterling's form, half complacency.

Players like de Bruyne need to get their focus back.

 

[willipp]

He put himself in that position

Agreed and not disputing he deserved the red. However if we could take a bloody corner properly and if gundogan had done what he half heartedly attempted then Zin wouldn’t of needed to foul him.

 

[Ric]

Could we have stopped their goal? Even 11 v 11 it was nailed on they would score with their first shot. We were so wasteful, we were asking for it.

Half Sterling's form, half complacency.

Players like de Bruyne need to get their focus back.

Yeah, you maybe right. Always feels like we're going to lose when we're so wasteful in front of goal. We were by far the better team prior to the red card though.

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

The penalty should have been retaken as Lloris is well off his line, lloris should have got a yellow for attacking Sterling, and that was never a foul let alone a booking by Zinchenko, ref had a good game for the FA, pity he got called up over one of the penalties but hey we did not score

This again is the issue with VAR - we haven't got the bloody foggiest of what is being discussed because the powers that be dont want to involve the working class punter, in the stadium or at home

They have cloaked the whole VAR thing in mystery that leaves it open to be corrupted by the betting syndicates etc. A host of decisions have been very suspect and it is leaving a sour taste in the mouth of all football fans

Every one in the stadium knows what is happening in the NFL in regards to referee decisions - They are the leading beacon in how VAR should be utilised for a global sporting enterprise

Lets take the incident with sterling and Lloris yesterday - VAR looks at the situation. They deem it not a penalty. The camera angles are utterly useless, and again like with all VAR decisions we dont know what is being discussed and the reasoning behind a non-penalty being given

Now as is the case with that decision, then surely that means Sterling has deceived the ref on the pitch and should be booked ? We would have heard the VAR ref giving the on pitch ref a decision behind his verdict and then he would have to stand by that

The whole VAR situation stinks

For it to work it also needs independent VAR cameras around the pitch watching allocated areas of the pitch so that angles can be looked at, not cameras owned by the broadcasting agency- the fact that this is left open to the broadcasting TV camera's means that a level of corruption can infiltrate the decision making - hence the missing footage of us against Liverpool for Salah''s goal

 

[mosssideblue]

Agreed and not disputing he deserved the red. However if we could take a bloody corner properly and if gundogan had done what he half heartedly attempted then Zin wouldn’t of needed to foul him.

All ifs, buts and maybes. At the end of the day Zin put himself at risk needlessly by getting involved in that fracas, and then tried a cute shoulder charge whilst not exactly attempting to get the ball.