Another new Brexit thread

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Saddleworth2 said:
I haven't seen a killer post or anything that approaches it but I think a pretty consistent theme emerges from most posters on here of fundamental future risk to our sovereignty and an unstoppable march to a centralist european union that overrides our own parliament. That there is a fundamental economic risk to individual country's economy from the Euro project. Add to that the inability to trade on our own terms with the rest of the world which is seen as a missed opportunity. That would be the way I would describe it if asked and I put that forward sincerely as my distillation of the Brexit position on here.

I do think the case is made more eloquently on here than it is on the JO'B radio show. At least I understand where posters on here are coming from even if I don't agree with their position.

I listen to James pretty often. Like him a great deal. Like the way he shines a spotlight on stuff that needs a spotlight shone on it, not just Brexit. Find him refreshingly different to most mainstream media and feel he does the kind of challenge that the BBC used to do and have lost in their quest for balance (giving equal air time to lies than they do to truths is not balance imo). Unlike some on here I don't find him arrogant, indeed he comes across as extremely principled and even if you don't agree with him his logic is consistent and I certainly haven't ever caught him lying. For me he embodies what I hold precious in what I thought was the overwhelming DNA of the UK, truth, honesty, compassion, openness to other cultures - that kind of 'old fashioned' stuff.
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last sentence, those values vanished post 1979........like industry, justice, reliable stats and above all honesty.
 
bluethrunthru said:
a kind of FOM will still exist for the privileged few

Nick
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Now overwhelming evidence that UK based firm such as consultancies, airlines etc & recruitment agencies are prioritizing UK citizens holding extra European passports for positions requiring EU travel or extended periods in EU. Brexit is creating a privileged elite worker class.
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And so it begins......

https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...on-manchester-airport-brexit-eu-a9316596.html
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Doesn't help those people wanting to attend the Ryan Air recruitment fair in February tho does it?
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Why? We are in a transition phase and as such still qualify to live and work in the EU and when we dont at the end of that transition phase they will update their ads as seen in the article.

No one is stopping anyone applying for the roles advertised.
 
blueinsa said:
Why? We are in a transition phase and as such still qualify to live and work in the EU and when we dont at the end of that transition phase they will update their ads as seen in the article.

No one is stopping anyone applying for the roles advertised.
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well I know he won’t be applying.

we have global pilots flying in and out of uk airports every hour of every day from airlines all over the world. The idea that the air industry has not given a thought about how they get cabin crew in and around the world until brexit. Ffs.
 
west didsblue said:
Apparently he only gets Brexit dunces on, not people who know what they’re talking about. You’d think the odd Brexpert would call in occasionally to put O’Brien in his place with it being a live show. Maybe someone like @blueinsa could point us to a clip where an intelligent leaver puts forward a convincing argument for why Brexit is such a great idea that O’Brien struggles to counter. Still waiting for it on here.

Not that it matters anymore as we’re out now. What seems odd is that most Leavers now want to take it a step further and needlessly further damage our economy by distancing ourselves from EU regulations just so that we can pretend we make our own rules for everything.
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I've listened to O'Brien a few times and he winds me up because generally any argument he can't win over through facts or moral superiority is just countered with "why are you bothered?" or an attempt to prove stupidity.

He can't accept an opinion whether informed or not, that is his problem. In fact that is the problem with the left and remainers as a whole.

That failing is why both groups have lost every single democratic exercise for the last decade.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
well I know he won’t be applying.

we have global pilots flying in and out of uk airports every hour of every day from airlines all over the world. The idea that the air industry has not given a thought about how they get cabin crew in and around the world until brexit. Ffs.
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I will add the Ryanair job advert isn't very fair on potential applicants from the rest of the world but that's not an issue for those who cry discrimination and racism the most is it?
 
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inbetween said:
I've listened to O'Brien a few times and he winds me up because generally any argument he can't win over through facts or moral superiority is just countered with "why are you bothered?" or an attempt to prove stupidity.

He can't accept an opinion whether informed or not, that is his problem. In fact that is the problem with the left and remainers as a whole.

That failing is why both groups have lost every single democratic exercise for the last decade.
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His debating style definitely rings a bell.................
 
Vic said:
I take it we are all agreed that the liars didn't mean it that we'd still be in a free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border.
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Ancient Citizen said:
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Is that your considered opinion about the lie?

You demand that Remainers should have compromised. I say I'd have compromised over what the Leave campaign promised, and you call it shit, and expect us to go away and just let the liars carry on lying - either because they have a mandate to carry on lying, or because of some misplaced patriotism that means lying is fine, or because you support the liars and/or the lying.

It is less than a year since Gove said he couldn't support no deal because 'We didn't vote to leave without a deal'.
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-09-02...-written-in-the-sands-can-be-seen-from-space/

He meant because of the promise that you now call shit.

I know it annoys you. Inconvenient truth, as some might say.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
I've not seen any conscription notices posted around yet, no troops marching, and no bombs falling yet.
Maybe all this hell will be unleashed during negotiations about non tariff barriers.
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So tell us how the UK will replicate EASA.
 
Vic said:
Is that your considered opinion about the lie?

You demand that Remainers should have compromised. I say I'd have compromised over what the Leave campaign promised, and you call it shit, and expect us to go away and just let the liars carry on lying - either because they have a mandate to carry on lying, or because of some misplaced patriotism that means lying is fine, or because you support the liars and/or the lying.

It is less than a year since Gove said he couldn't support no deal because 'We didn't vote to leave without a deal'.
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-09-02...-written-in-the-sands-can-be-seen-from-space/

He meant because of the promise that you now call shit.

I know it annoys you. Inconvenient truth, as some might say.
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Annoyed, me?
Lol, I've never been so chilled mate, particularly after recent events, and there will be a deal, don't fret.
 
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