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Investigation in Liverpool's 'hacking' of our computer systems
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nmc
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There are presumably good reasons why they seem to be keeping the lid on this. But I can only reiterate that I'm confident that the lid will, at some point, be coming off.
Having had an hour to absorb this.... I wonder if City... either have absolutely no faith in the FA and are hoping to secure a criminal conviction before throwing it back to the FA; or more likely City think an FA investigation would undermine a simultaneous criminal investigation. Maybe we want to nail the Dippers once and for all ?
Having had an hour to absorb this.... I wonder if City... either have absolutely no faith in the FA and are hoping to secure a criminal conviction before throwing it back to the FA; or more likely City think an FA investigation would undermine a simultaneous criminal investigation. Maybe we want to nail the Dippers once and for all ?
Again, I really want to know why people think that the very same people who thought this wasn't worth pursuing criminal or footballing claims when they discovered this happened would change their mind 7 years later? Because Liverpool's football team is better now?
Because a club with £500m yearly revenues and an owner worth $18Bn signed an NDA which stopped them talking about one of the biggest scandals in football for £1m, less than we pay some u18's in a year.
People need to start asking questions about why the richest club in the world gave away something like that for an amount that equates to a rounding error in the accounts.
This line has been repeated page after page yet there has never been any indication coming from anywhere other than one journalist and some City fans that this is a massive story. The size of the story is open to interpretation and only City fans and one newspaper paid any attention to it. That would suggest it wasn't the big story Ziegler thought it was. Go on Liverpool forums and it's barely mentioned, go any other teams forums and it isn't mentioned at all. The Guardian have slipped it in to countdown to the weekend segment, the BBC haven't included it all and the others have just printed the FA statement word for word. Yet on here there was talk of 10 points, 20 points, relegation, I'm sure I even seen league 2 mentioned. Even after it's over people are still clinging to rumours there is some sort of master plan yet to be played out. The outcome from day one was blindingly obvious, even down to the fact they released the news on a Friday when half the league is on holidays or the other half have their bags packed.
nmc
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I don't know how many times you want me to say this.
The probably didn't do anything because City didnt tell them anything. Just like they didn't tell them when they discovered it, or when they settled with Liverpool.
If you get burgled and you find out who did it but never report it to the police, preferring to sign an NDA for a trivial amount of money, it's not the police's fault that they don't investigate.
That’s not quite accurate. If someone burgles you and you reach a civil settlement with them - they give you a few quid and you sign an NDA - that does not preclude a criminal investigation by the police. I just wonder whether City want to pursue the criminal angle and are presently not interested in the FA getting involved. Maybe we are squeezing the Dippers and don’t want them to know what we have on them.
That’s not quite accurate. If someone burgles you and you reach a civil settlement with them - they give you a few quid and you sign an NDA - that does not preclude a criminal investigation by the police. I just wonder whether City want to pursue the criminal angle and are presently not interested in the FA getting involved. Maybe we are squeezing the Dippers and don’t want them to know what we have on them.
I didn't say it precluded a criminal investigation, I said if you don't make the police aware of a crime you can't blame them for not investigating it
nmc
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Again, I really want to know why people think that the very same people who thought this wasn't worth pursuing criminal or footballing claims when they discovered this happened would change their mind 7 years later? Because Liverpool's football team is better now?
Maybe it’s become personal. Henry and Parry et al have been hanging us out to dry. Who knows?
City headline would be 'city escape sanction in hacking scandal'
Instead Liverpool get 'FA drop investigation'
Spot the difference.
You made one of them up?
This line has been repeated page after page yet there has never been any indication coming from anywhere other than one journalist and some City fans that this is a massive story. The size of the story is open to interpretation and only City fans and one newspaper paid any attention to it. That would suggest it wasn't the big story Ziegler thought it was. Go on Liverpool forums and it's barely mentioned, go any other teams forums and it isn't mentioned at all. The Guardian have slipped it in to countdown to the weekend segment, the BBC haven't included it all and the others have just printed the FA statement word for word. Yet on here there was talk of 10 points, 20 points, relegation, I'm sure I even seen league 2 mentioned. Even after it's over people are still clinging to rumours there is some sort of master plan yet to be played out. The outcome from day one was blindingly obvious, even down to the fact they released the news on a Friday when half the league is on holidays or the other half have their bags packed.
If Martin Ziegler is correct then Liverpool's current Head Scout and director of football stole someone's log in details to access City's scouting database thousands of times over 7 months.
That is 100% a crime, and would definitely be one of the biggest scandals in the sports' history.
The fact it's not being reported is suspicious, you're right, but we already know that Liverpool threatened to sue the Mirror into oblivion if they reported on it 2 years ago so maybe that's why.
But like I said, that begs the question why did the richest people on earth sign away their secrecy for a pathetically small amount?
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So it was out in the public domain in 2013 and the fa did nothing because of NDA's.I don't know how many times you want me to say this.
The probably didn't do anything because City didnt tell them anything. Just like they didn't tell them when they discovered it, or when they settled with Liverpool.
If you get burgled and you find out who did it but never report it to the police, preferring to sign an NDA for a trivial amount of money, it's not the police's fault that they don't investigate.
The fa are the governing body and regardless of NDA's and 2 clubs settling in private, it should have launched a full investigation in the interest of the other 90 professional clubs who are members of the fa