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Looks to me like it’s up to FF, what they’re willing to do.
Could be a very short lived government unless pride is swallowed.
Another election?
Who wants to risk that?
Catch 22, go for a (probably) short lived and bad tempered government with FG and piss off the wider electorate or go for a government with SF and piss off their core vote.
In any case they're on borrowed time, their voters are ageing rapidly.
 
How many seats would SF have got if they hadn't fucked up their number of candidate's?
At least another 6 in constituencies where they ran too few candidates. Maybe 7. Hard to judge in the 11 constituencies (of 39) where they ran no candidate, but it's hard to imagine that they wouldn't have picked up another good few there given the mood nationally.
 
They have the largest percentage of the vote.
Hard to ignore.

Impossible to ignore I would imagine. A FF/FG carve up excluding SF will likely lead to an even bigger share of the vote for SF next time round. Better to bring SF into the tent so that they can be partly judged on record in Govt when it comes to the next election.
 
Impossible to ignore I would imagine. A FF/FG carve up excluding SF will likely lead to an even bigger share of the vote for SF next time round. Better to bring SF into the tent so that they can be partly judged on record in Govt when it comes to the next election.


Be nice to see their approach to the Eu's FTA with the UK. It takes all states to agree.
 
https://www.rte.ie/news/election-2020/
The RTE link for anyone interested.

when i last lookded, SF were on 37, the other two big parties on circa low 20s each. But it has probably hit the point where that is where SF will have peaked, and the remaining count will see seat numbers grow for the two other parties.

The greens seem to have done reasonably well as well.

Reminds me a bit of the 2007 Holyrood election this.
 
when i last lookded, SF were on 37, the other two big parties on circa low 20s each. But it has probably hit the point where that is where SF will have peaked, and the remaining count will see seat numbers grow for the two other parties.

The greens seem to have done reasonably well as well.

Reminds me a bit of the 2007 Holyrood election this.
SF will stay on 37, the other 5 candidates they had have been eliminated. Looking right now like it'll be FF 45, SF 37, FG 36. Greens should finish on 10, Labour on 5, SDs on 6, PBP on 4 and Áontu on 1 giving the 2 traditional parties 82 and a majority if they go together and the left parties 63 with the other 15 seats going to independents.
 
when i last lookded, SF were on 37, the other two big parties on circa low 20s each. But it has probably hit the point where that is where SF will have peaked, and the remaining count will see seat numbers grow for the two other parties.

The greens seem to have done reasonably well as well.

Reminds me a bit of the 2007 Holyrood election this.
It's looking very much like the prediction from last night.
FF 45
SDF 37
FG 36
 
SF will stay on 37, the other 5 candidates they had have been eliminated. Looking right now like it'll be FF 45, SF 37, FG 36. Greens should finish on 10, Labour on 5, SDs on 6, PBP on 4 and Áontu on 1 giving the 2 traditional parties 82 and a majority if they go together and the left parties 63 with the other 15 seats going to independents.

Do you think there could be a coalition to keep out FF and FG?
 
Do you think there could be a coalition to keep out FF and FG?
Doesn't look like they'd have the numbers. 80 makes a government and several of the independents are ex FF or FG, or very pally with those parties. If FF+FG>80 seats its impossible to form a government without one or the other.
 
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Doesn't look like they'd have the numbers. 80 makes a government and several of the independents are ex FF or FG, or very pally with those parties. If FF+FG<80 seats its impossible to form a government without one or the other.

Will be watching to see how it unfolds.
 
We'll be stuck with at least one unless FF drop a few seats from here, FG are going to hit the 35/36 mark.
If FF go into coalition with SF, Michael Martin should resign as leader, but he won't.
It'll have to be FF and SF in my opinion. How stable that will be, god only knows.
 
they don't need to form a coalition tho? they can form a minority government. but who gets that right, the party with the most seats? or does the party with the largest vote share have a moral right to try a minority government?

the snp did that in 2007, i still think to date that was their mist successful spell as the governing party, they did it for 5 years, waskt easy, particularly against the backdrop of a uk wide recession and cuts. They did however have one more seat than labour, which SF won't.
 

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