UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[chesterguy]

Just read the response from CAS. It is interesting it eems to say that until City have exhausted all remedies provided by UEFA ie the next Chamber then they cannot rule. But they have pointed out to UEFA that they had better deal with City's concerns because that wont go well should City have to go back to CAS.

They wont rule on damages yet as they dont think City suffered irreperable harm being referred to the AC but if that chamber do come against City then one can imagine the damages claim can be heard and that will be a big figure so UEFA have got plenty to think about

It is clear that CAS do think that City have a case regarding the leaks but have thrown that back to the AC so lets see what they do with the information

 

[Coatigan]

The damage has been done to the club’s reputation. The club should go for the leaker as well as the organisation.

i would just love it if the figure sought from uefa as compensation for the damage to reputation, happens to be whatever our fine in 2014 was.

 

[Bandofblues]

i would just love it if the figure sought from uefa as compensation for the damage to reputation, happens to be whatever our fine in 2014 was +99p.

 

[Coatigan]

From what I can see it seems to be saying UEFA have a chance to put it right if they don’t CAS will.

does it though?

 

[bluetonium]

Had a long glance over the CAS document, all 35 pages, and what it important to note is that we can still appeal any AC decision from UEFA and pretty much all of the issues we raise have been dismissed as inadmissible, rather than as being unfounded, due to technicalities like not exhausting other legal routes first, not waiting for a final decision (as we thought the process and thus decision was compromised) etc. Not because we've not got a good case.

The paragraph on the leaks is most interesting, I do hope we have some more concrete evidence to push this, as it could really rip UEFA apart.

This bit was the most pleasing to read:

The alleged leaking of information by members of the Investigatory Chamber or the UEFA administration about the proceedings against MCFC is worrisome. Again, the Panel is mindful not to trespass into the authority of the Adjudicatory Chamber to address MCFC’s procedural complaints in detail. However, it must be noted that MCFC’s complaints as to the leaks do not, on a prima facie basis, appear to be entirely without merit, particularly concerning the First and Second Leak, […], and the Fifth Leak, which refers to an “insider” at UEFA as the source. 114. It puzzles the Panel how the CFCB Chief Investigator could be so confident to “vehemently reject [MCFC’s] allegations of unlawful activities, either by myself or by any of the members of the UEFA CFCB, in particular of its Investigatory Chamber (IC)”, and to state that MCFC’s allegations regarding the leaks were “groundless in the merits” and to “assure [MCFC] that at no time, myself or any of my fellow members of the IC have violated any rights of your club”.


Basically CAS are questioning the Chief Investigator. Regardless of the final AC decision, there could well be an investigation into him personally now. Either he, an underling, or someone with access to his data could have leaked the info, and the timings of the newspaper headlines makes even CAS sit up and take notice.

I therefore can't see how they can hang anything on us, as well be straight to CAS to get it thrown out. That aside, once a decision has been made and CAS can act without influencing a decision, I think CAS are also now duty bound to recommend to open an independent investigation into the leaks. We may not even have to do anything, besides push for damages, especially if one of these media outlets were to leak the leaker, so to speak. Now that would be dynamite.

 

[Prater70]

Can anyone explain in layman's terms what has happened ?

 

[CatMan]

Can anyone explain in layman's terms what has happened ?

Probably not!

 

[aguero93:20]

Can anyone explain in layman's terms what has happened ?

UEFA fucked up.

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Rather than the club relying on CAS to rectify the expected bent decision from UEFA I hope our owner has channelled huge sums into obtaining as much dirt as possible on anyone connected with all the shite that has been directed from us by the cartel.

Think back to Ferguson thinking he could take on two Irish billionaires and then times it by a hundred. By the time they'd finished with him they knew EVERYTHING about him and not surprisingly a lot of it he didn't want to be made public.

 

[KS55]

The Milan case offers a precedent for the principle that any appeal against procedural breaches at the investigation stage should generally be raised during any appeal following a subsequent adjudication. They can depart from that line in certain circumstances, notably when they consider that a claimant's legitimate interests would otherwise be compromised.

Here, while the CAS recognises that there were some differences between our case and Milan's, they've nonetheless decided to follow the general principle. It's important to be mindful that they haven't rejected the substance of City's arguments, only declined to consider them at this stage. And based on my scan read of the document, I'd say that insofar as it's possible to discern any view of the CAS on the merits, there's far more for UEFA to be worried about than City. However, the usual disclaimers apply on that point.

As for Nick Harris, he's not a credible observer. His track record when commenting on City is that he lamentably lacks any ability to do so objectively. Treat him with the contempt that he deserves.

"Far more for UEFA to be worried about than City"
Spot on mate. No wonder Ceferin has been visiting us. UEFA run the risk of a real pasting if it goes to CAS, who dropped heavy hints to that effect.