If I was a betting man I’d put my money on Livarpool. From the outside, it seems to me that the Glazers don’t particularly care about winning: it’s just business. John W. Henry is a sports owner who wants to enrich himself but he also wants to win in the process.
There’s a scene at the end of the film “Moneyball” - I highly recommend it by the way - that can enlighten you to his mindset. What’s more enlightening is the reports coming out of the USA in respect to his baseball franchise; doping, stealing of signs and illegality.
I think that's probably right. The claim seems mainly that we worked round them - the loophole mentioned above - which seems harder to do anything about.
My point was "as long as we haven't lied to them" - that would knock down any defence.
The sign stealing was at a non FSG baseball team, wasn't it?
An exec from that team subsequently went to an FSG team, and has now been sacked as a result of being given a ban from baseball.
Not sure what the other issues are.
well I had it this morning
There’s quite a lot on the internet in regards to their chicanery but here’s a start:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/175226-the-majority-of-boston-red-sox-used-steroids
I love it when you get all truculent on Twitter.
Yep. Some more than others. Alas, these ones are celebrated by the media for whatever sordid reasons.Cheers, I assume every team has had illegality of some kind!
Conspiracy, intrigue, lying, bombast, leaking by deep throat, corrupt courts, fortunes changing hands, petty rivalry, a small player battling powerful forces, fearless journalism (ha!), a whiff of racism; throw in a little light bestiality with goats, "Gunfight at the UEFA Coral" starring the Khaldoon Kid and Rick 'The Prick' Parry is an exhilarating adventure rivalling 'Star Wars' for fantasy and 'The Magnificent Seven' for triumph over the odds. At a cinema near you NOW.
Going back a while, maybe a couple of years, I used to be prepared to cut McGeehan some slack because I thought he came at issues from a different standpoint and might have some legitimate concerns. Obviously, I no longer think this and agree that he's possibly the most obnoxious of the lot for his dissembling occupation of the moral high ground coupled with absences of intellectual integrity such as we saw today.
As for that Scouser thinking that McGeehan knows anything about UEFA. Jesus wept!
I highly doubt City or the auditors lied to them, there's perhaps the case that UEFA didn't ask the right questions at the time and having seen the leaked emails etc 5 years later the alleged goat molester thinks we should have failed by a bigger margin and had a more severe punishment. I'ld be pretty certain that all direct statements and answers from both club and auditors were factual and in line with what the accounts show on record. The goat molester (Alleged) probably thinks nasty cheating arab twats did x & y to hide z in the accounts and only showed z to uefa type scenario, but it would have been uefa's responsibility to ask about x & y.
The charge of misled is bollocks as far I am concerned as uefa had full access to the accounts and auditors at the time and even after filing to permit them to change the annexes used.
Quick note on the leaked documents
Pinto have admitted multiple times that he didn't obtain all of the 'leaked documents' himself
So a club, agent or individual / group other than Pinto potentially hacked or stole the City documents
I doubt that this was done via the goodness of someone's heart, so can a third party who financially benefits from the stolen documents count as a whistleblower?
It has taken our media a long time to realise that UEFA do not have a leg to stand on. If they try to ban us City will destroy them in the courts. CFG operates globally and the damages and costs would be huge. The senior leaders at UEFA would lose their jobs...and they know it.How could UEFA have viewed the emails? Are you suggesting they are considering throwing us out of the champions league on here say?
City's handful of emails form a tiny part of tens of millions of documents stolen. Pinto's main targets were Sporting Lisbon and Benfica. I don't think any of the 90 charges against Pinto even relate to City. Pinto claims he wasn't acting alone but you can't believe a word he says. He also claims he is a whistleblower and not motivated by money but the authorities found millions in his Swiss bank accounts and he was reportedly trapped in a sting operation trying to collect a ransom. The Pinto cache of stolen documents is said to be bigger than the information hacked by Julian Assange.well that line on its own there, is quite remarkable and highly important if it is true. That then opens the floor to 2 scenarios occurring.
1 - an insider working at the club has done this (which would seem to tie in with the footballs leaks report that suggests employee's within our club do not have the clubs best interests at heart)
2 - an organisation has committed an illegal corporate hack
There is only one way that this can be resolved and that is, if we have it (and i hope we do) is to take those responsible to court once UEFA have played their card
A penny for UEFA's thoughts when we turned up with an eight-strong legal team and they had a miserly two?
The fact they asked for their 60k costs to be reimbursed, suggests the coffers don't run too deep!
This could well be a landmark case in football, once and for all
Have I missed a major update on this? Have we met with UEFA now and told them bring it on?
If I was a betting man I’d put my money on Livarpool. From the outside, it seems to me that the Glazers don’t particularly care about winning: it’s just business. John W. Henry is a sports owner who wants to enrich himself but he also wants to win in the process.
There’s a scene at the end of the film “Moneyball” - I highly recommend it by the way - that can enlighten you to his mindset. What’s more enlightening is the reports coming out of the USA in respect to his baseball franchise; doping, stealing of signs and illegality.