UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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Yves Leterme the Chief FFP Investigator a Standard Liege supporter
This is the guy that City accused of leaking the result of his investigation to the media despite it being a sign-up for strict confidentiality agreement sue

Hes a former Belgian PM who resigned as a result of a banking rescue plan that went badly wrong

https://www.macleans.ca/news/world/can-anyone-save-belgium-from-itself/

Belgium’s previous government, headed by Flemish Christian Democrat Yves Leterme, collapsed in December after a Belgian judge said he had “strong indications” Leterme’s aides had pressured the court over a rescue plan for Fortis, a once-mighty bank felled by the financial crisis. Leterme was also criticized for failing to quell tensions between Belgium’s French and Dutch speakers, whose bickering over regional autonomy deadlocked the government for months. His gaffes often upset French speakers: he once famously confused Belgium’s national anthem with France’s, and claimed the country’s francophones were incapable of learning Dutch.

Then there is the case of the text messages
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...iner-style-sex-scandals-move-overseas/352034/

Prime Minister Yves Leterme sent 849 text messages--some of a private nature--to a mistress in Antwerp whom he met on Facebook while he was serving as foreign minister. The magazine, which interviews the alleged mistress and publishes some of the texts, adds that Leterme tried to arrange a ministry job for the woman. Leterme, according to Le Soir, denies the report, explaining that he did advise a woman from Antwerp to apply for a temporary position with the ministry, which she ultimately didn't obtain, but that her testimony to Story isn't credible. Politico's Ben Smith points out that Leterme got himself into trouble on Twitter last year when he sent an eyebrow-raising tweet in English: "Not at all. Want to learn to know you. You too?"

Ex-Belgian Prime Minister Yves Leterme will have to leave the Idea Institute (Do the reasons ring a bell?)
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2018/0...ister-yves-leterme-will-have-to-leave-the-id/

A recent report by the consultancy firm KPMG had reported that Yves Leterme had an "authoritarian" management of Idea and a lack of collective decision-making power. The report also referred to cases of discrimination, preferential treatment and harassment.

In light of City's accusations that the Investigative Chamber failed to follow its own policies

Yves Leterme is former OECD Deputy Secretary-General
The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) is an international organisation that works to build better policies for better lives


Its only FAIR PLAY, of course, to point out that ever story has two sides and I'm sure that Leterme has his own version of events


Hes a little gaff ridden
He was once asked to sing a few lines of the national anthem, Brabanconne, on Belgium’s national day, but launched into a rendition of France’s La Marseillaise instead.
He told the French newspaper Liberation in August 2006 that Belgium’s francophones were either too lazy or not intelligent enough to learn Dutch.
It makes me wonder whether the UAE intelligence service have interests in certain people
 
Yves Leterme the Chief FFP Investigator a Standard Liege supporter
This is the guy that City accused of leaking the result of his investigation to the media despite it being a sign-up for strict confidentiality agreement sue

Hes a former Belgian PM who resigned as a result of a banking rescue plan that went badly wrong

https://www.macleans.ca/news/world/can-anyone-save-belgium-from-itself/

Belgium’s previous government, headed by Flemish Christian Democrat Yves Leterme, collapsed in December after a Belgian judge said he had “strong indications” Leterme’s aides had pressured the court over a rescue plan for Fortis, a once-mighty bank felled by the financial crisis. Leterme was also criticized for failing to quell tensions between Belgium’s French and Dutch speakers, whose bickering over regional autonomy deadlocked the government for months. His gaffes often upset French speakers: he once famously confused Belgium’s national anthem with France’s, and claimed the country’s francophones were incapable of learning Dutch.

Then there is the case of the text messages
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...iner-style-sex-scandals-move-overseas/352034/

Prime Minister Yves Leterme sent 849 text messages--some of a private nature--to a mistress in Antwerp whom he met on Facebook while he was serving as foreign minister. The magazine, which interviews the alleged mistress and publishes some of the texts, adds that Leterme tried to arrange a ministry job for the woman. Leterme, according to Le Soir, denies the report, explaining that he did advise a woman from Antwerp to apply for a temporary position with the ministry, which she ultimately didn't obtain, but that her testimony to Story isn't credible. Politico's Ben Smith points out that Leterme got himself into trouble on Twitter last year when he sent an eyebrow-raising tweet in English: "Not at all. Want to learn to know you. You too?"

Ex-Belgian Prime Minister Yves Leterme will have to leave the Idea Institute (Do the reasons ring a bell?)
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2018/0...ister-yves-leterme-will-have-to-leave-the-id/

A recent report by the consultancy firm KPMG had reported that Yves Leterme had an "authoritarian" management of Idea and a lack of collective decision-making power. The report also referred to cases of discrimination, preferential treatment and harassment.

In light of City's accusations that the Investigative Chamber failed to follow its own policies

Yves Leterme is former OECD Deputy Secretary-General
The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) is an international organisation that works to build better policies for better lives


Its only FAIR PLAY, of course, to point out that ever story has two sides and I'm sure that Leterme has his own version of events


Hes a little gaff ridden
He was once asked to sing a few lines of the national anthem, Brabanconne, on Belgium’s national day, but launched into a rendition of France’s La Marseillaise instead.
He told the French newspaper Liberation in August 2006 that Belgium’s francophones were either too lazy or not intelligent enough to learn Dutch.

IIRC he also sits on one of the boards at VW, the emissions one i think, they obviously own Audi who are a major shareholder in Bayern. A bit of a roundabout way, but everyone in UEFA seems to be linked together somehow.
 
Cheers !

It's hardly a surprise that UEFA Exec committee have links to the clubs they represent. Same with the PL, EFL, and, well, most other things.
The IC and AC specifically forbid the members being members of a club/league while sitting.

It's mostly available info though. The majority come through the federations, 2 are appointed by the European Clubs, 1 by the leagues. Very few have links to a 'big' club, and one is not a UEFA appointee (Agnelli). Sorry about the formatting!

Exec Committee:
President: Aleksander Čeferin (Slovenian)
1st Vice President: Karl-Erik Nilsson (Sweden, President of FA)

Vice Presidents
Sándor Csányi (Hungary) (a billionaire)
Fernando Gomes (Portugal) (Porto)
Luis Rubiales (Spain)
Michele Uva (Italy) (Parma)

Treasurer
David Gill (England) them. = RED BASTARD OBVIOUSLY HATES US

Members
Andrea Agnelli (ECA) Juventus = WANTS A BIGGER CL BASED ON HISTORICAL PERFORMANCE RATHER THAN DOMESTIC RESULTS. ALSO WANTS PEP AS NEXT MANAGER
Nasser Al-Khelaifi (ECA) = PSG PRESIDENT - CHARGED WITH BRIBERY
Zbigniew Boniek (Poland)
Jesper Møller Christensen (Denmark)
Armand Duka (Albania)
Florence Hardouin (France)
Lars-Christer Olsson (European Leagues)
Andrii Pavelko (Ukraine)
Davor Šuker (Croatia)
Michael van Praag (Netherlands) (Ajax chairman for 14 years to 2003)
Servet Yardımcı (Turkey)

General Secretary Theodore Theodoridis

Club Financial Control Body
Adjudicatory Chamber
Chairman: José da Cunha Rodrigues (Portugal)
Vice Chairmen: Louis Peila (Switzerland) Christiaan Timmermans (Netherlands)
Members: Charles Flint QC (England) Adam Giersz (Poland)

Investigatory Chamber
Chief Investigator: Yves Leterme (Belgium) (ex PM).
Members: Jacobo Beltrán (Spain) (politician, adviser to accountancy firm)
Egon Franck (Germany) (Prof at Zurich)
Konstantin Sonin (Russia) (Prof in economics, Chicago)
Petra Stanonik Bošnjak (Slovenia) (a judge)
Yves Wehrli (France) (managing partner at international law firm)


Not got a lot of time to go digging at the moment. What else do we have?
 
Cheers !



Exec Committee:
President: Aleksander Čeferin (Slovenian)
1st Vice President: Karl-Erik Nilsson (Sweden, President of FA)

Vice Presidents
Sándor Csányi (Hungary) (a billionaire)
Fernando Gomes (Portugal) (Porto)
Luis Rubiales (Spain)
Michele Uva (Italy) (Parma)

Treasurer
David Gill (England) them. = RED BASTARD OBVIOUSLY HATES US

Members
Andrea Agnelli (ECA) Juventus = WANTS A BIGGER CL BASED ON HISTORICAL PERFORMANCE RATHER THAN DOMESTIC RESULTS. ALSO WANTS PEP AS NEXT MANAGER
Nasser Al-Khelaifi (ECA) = PSG PRESIDENT - CHARGED WITH BRIBERY
Zbigniew Boniek (Poland)
Jesper Møller Christensen (Denmark)
Armand Duka (Albania)
Florence Hardouin (France)
Lars-Christer Olsson (European Leagues)
Andrii Pavelko (Ukraine)
Davor Šuker (Croatia)
Michael van Praag (Netherlands) (Ajax chairman for 14 years to 2003)
Servet Yardımcı (Turkey)

General Secretary Theodore Theodoridis

Club Financial Control Body
Adjudicatory Chamber
Chairman: José da Cunha Rodrigues (Portugal)
Vice Chairmen: Louis Peila (Switzerland) Christiaan Timmermans (Netherlands)
Members: Charles Flint QC (England) Adam Giersz (Poland)

Investigatory Chamber
Chief Investigator: Yves Leterme (Belgium) (ex PM).
Members: Jacobo Beltrán (Spain) (politician, adviser to accountancy firm)
Egon Franck (Germany) (Prof at Zurich)
Konstantin Sonin (Russia) (Prof in economics, Chicago)
Petra Stanonik Bošnjak (Slovenia) (a judge)
Yves Wehrli (France) (managing partner at international law firm)


Not got a lot of time to go digging at the moment. What else do we have?

It's relevant to note that two of those are not UEFA appointees, and as far as I know, the seats do not have Exec Committee voting rights.
They are elected/appointed by the European Club Association.
 
It's relevant to note that two of those are not UEFA appointees, and as far as I know, the seats do not have Exec Committee voting rights.
They are elected/appointed by the European Club Association.

True but politics is about influence and who you know - if your not in the circle then you are outside it.
 


somethings happened


That has to be one of the most disingenuous comments I've ever read from Harris - and there are some serious contenders in his output, so I don't say that lightly!

He makes out as if he is 'just reporting on an issue', suggesting an impartial presentation of the facts - which anyone with even a passing knowledge of his form would tell you is complete fantasy.

It takes two to tango, and perhaps if he didn't constantly take the most antagonistic and dismissive angle in his reporting of City's perspective on this story, he might get a more measured response in return. If you instantly take an openly sneering and disrespectful tone to any perspective the club or it's fanbase puts out, without ever attempting to consider whether any of it has merit (and I'm not for a moment suggesting it all does, by the way), you will get the same tone coming right back at you. I don't think most City fans expect any of our esteemed reporters in the media to simply gobble up the club position and regurgitate it unquestioningly as the truth. If you read this thread alone, you'll see plenty of criticism from our own fans on how the club is managing certain aspects of this process. All we expect is a bit of balance in the reporting our media presents to us - which I'm sure even they, if they're really honest with themselves, would concede there is precious little of at the moment.

Harris is hardly the innocent bystander simply reporting the facts in relation to City that he's so disingenuously attempting to paint himself as. He references 'multiple angles', yet as far as I can see there is only one angle he seems remotely interested in taking throughout this story. If you throw enough mud at a club and a fanbase, don't be surprised and play the sanctimonious card when they start to throw it back at you.
 
It makes me wonder whether the UAE intelligence service have interests in certain people

Im sure it was pure co-incidence that Platini and Blater were subject to FBI investigations just post to City feeling the UEFA pinch Its not like anyone connected to City has POTUSA phone number on speed dial, is it?
 


somethings happened


If he wants to see toxicity, threats and malicious messages I dare him and the other scum masquerading as journalists to start going after the scousers. Here's a starter for him. How about mentioning in all the furore about us cheating etcetera the scousers hacking into our system seems to have been forgotten. That will do o begin with.
 
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