UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Mid Wales blue]

Looks like there is still a mountain of "info" still to come....

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-passwords-in-his-head?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

This whole story looks fabricated.
Under no circumstances would someone held in prison, “on these type of charges” be able to meet and discuss anything related to the case with members of the press.

 

[Centurions]

Cheers, this is what happens when you try to ignore most media outlets, off to google rui pinto :-)

Read articles from various sources as some portray him as a whistleblower while others don't ignore the attempted blackmail of a football agent or the allegedly successful fraud he pulled off on a Cayman Isles(?) bank.

 

[Asa's left peg]

One thing to remember about Saint Pinto. He was caught in a sting operation whilst trying to extort money from an agency, with his lawyer in tow, I believe. Also, he hacked a banks accounts and illegally transfered money. Hardly the work of a whistleblower. It doesn't seem a big step to altering emails - if he has infact done that.

edit Sorry Centurions - great minds and all that ...

 

[Nails]

The New Yorker is the story to read. Flabbergasting stuff.

 

[malkie]

The New Yorker is the story to read. Flabbergasting stuff.

Linky clicky thing please

 

[lonestay]

So what we need to do is to convince Eufa to come under the protective arm of CFG, turn whistleblower on themselves or at least the rogue elements of themselves, and sit back and watch European football implode then rebuild football in a new and corrupt free manner !

 

[squirtyflower]

This whole story looks fabricated.
Under no circumstances would someone held in prison, “on these type of charges” be able to meet and discuss anything related to the case with members of the press.

It is fabricated.
Look at which paper is always targeting Manchester City, which paper blows smoke up the arses of the red scum on the M62 corridor, praises PGMOB and is now vilifying our fans.
They’re in bed with the crooks spoiling English football as they couldn’t run a newspaper if their lives depended on it. Make this crook look like a saint and then we are the sinners.

 

[Keith Moon]

Eighty-Eight million documents? And they managed to find just on City?

My take is that if there was anything else, Der Spiegel would have willingly published it. They shot their load after the first couple of days. Everything after that, was just a hatchet job about City's supposed lack of status and history.

It was not Pinto who hacked City, thats for sure, seeing who they targeted and the way they did it i'm pretty sure that it was someone with a deep knowledge about the football business using an operator way over Pintos pay grade.

 

[KS55]

So what we need to do is to convince Eufa to come under the protective arm of CFG, turn whistleblower on themselves or at least the rogue elements of themselves, and sit back and watch European football implode then rebuild football in a new and corrupt free manner !

Extremely fanciful but attractive scenario. However, if it came to pass, FIFA would pick up the pieces with their world club championship. UEFA would be left with a minor competition featuring small clubs like Bournemouth and Manchester Oonited.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

What a great brain hurting read that’s is.

I found it fascinating. I also noted that EUFA’s biggest issue seemed to be getting City to pay their legal fees. They lost that one...
Also, both sides agreed to keep everything from then on confidential. Might go some way to explaining why City haven’t produced their evidence. It does explain that the hacks are selectively reporting stuff and leaving out other stuff in order to craft the narrative they want to be out there.

 

[lonestay]

Extremely fanciful but attractive scenario. However, if it came to pass, FIFA would pick up the pieces with their world club championship. UEFA would be left with a minor competition featuring small clubs like Bournemouth and Manchester
Oonited.

My tongue was firmly in my cheek when I wrote it KS55 !!

 

[KS55]

My tongue was firmly in my cheek when I wrote it KS55 !!

I know!

 

[squirtyflower]

I found it fascinating. I also noted that EUFA’s biggest issue seemed to be getting City to pay their legal fees. They lost that one...
Also, both sides agreed to keep everything from then on, confidential. Might go some way to explaining why City haven’t produced their evidence but doesn’t explain why the hacks can’t work that out for themselves....

The hacks can work it out
They choose to write the wrong shit

 

[kippaxwarrior]

The curious case of Zenit st Petersburg

https://theblacksea.eu/stories/foot...inancial-doping-russian-state-football-clubs/

A very long but interesting read.

The main points are Zenit were found failing FFP in 2013 after their Gazprom deal( who are one of Uefas main sponsor) was found to be massively overinflated(around £100M.)

Over the course of 3 years Zenit kept moving money around to say they didn't fail and then their lawyers found a mysterious clause which said they could be an extra £20M over FFP rules as Russia was an emerging Football national.

The only time any kind of ban since then is the stadium fan ban for displaying racist banners.

Where was the World Cup held in 2018? I think we all know that.

Who is Zenits most famous fan?
It doesn't take a genius to work that out either.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

The hacks can work it out
They choose to write the wrong shit

Ain’t that the truth? Cheers for that and I’ve edited the original post to reflect that point.

 

[Prater70]

If CAS cleared City of all charges and we had the chance to sue One and only one organisation or person who would you choose from. United, Liverpool, Bayern, Gill, Tebas, Leterme, Simon Jordan, Der Spiegel ,Daily Mail.

 

[nmc]

Will we be able to get revenge on these loathsome bastard clubs once we win the court case? There are two in particular I'd love to see absolutely taken to the cleaners.

Two? I can think of 6 or 7.

 

[BringBackSwales]

PB explained that while we didn't admit guilt in 2014, it was more prudent and less time consuming to accept a.minimal chastisement and move on. That's why the chairman referred to it as a "pinch".
The fact that these charges are being brought up again indicates that they're trying to use us as a piggy bank who'll be compliant or risk the wrath of the public. People have made their minds up about us already and no amount of exoneration in any court,(kangaroo or otherwise) will alter the narrative.
I suspect the message from City now is, " throw as much shit as you want at us but we're not paying you for the privilege".

Thanks, very sensible

 

[BringBackSwales]

I wasn't aware of the rule change until Khaldoon mentioned in the club statement that there'd been a disagreement over the treatment of pre-June 2010 wages. I then went back and re-examined the FFP toolkit and found the change, which had a small but critical effect on our position.

Thanks PB, you have the brain the size of a small planet

 

[squirtyflower]

Thanks PB, you have the brain the size of a small planet

Uranus?