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Seasonal flu deaths this year 82974

corona virus deaths this year 3120.
It's been explained numerous times already, but it's really not a valid comparison. What really matters is that 3,120 figure could potentially become 50+ million. The other figure won't reach anything close to that.
 
Well frankly the comparison is meaningless Covid has so far hit one small part of one country in a big way which has taken extreme measures to prevent it's dissemination which look like they are going to be unsuccessful, flu is present in the whole world since the beginning of the year. Every indication is that Covid is going to be a lot more dangerous than seasonal flu.
Depends which one - the range of season influenzas includes mortality rates way above the worst case predictions for Covid 19.
 
It will be very interesting to see how the FA, PL, EFL, and UEFA handle the matches remaining in the various competitions. I am not sure this plan would be workable should players or club staff contract the virus (even though, based on current evidence, most would more than likely not be at risk for a severe case, they could spread it to others that could then transmit to people who are at higher risk).

It’s quite telling that this is their “worst case” scenario, though, not surprising.


Just a normal matchday then. ;)
 
Well frankly the comparison is meaningless Covid has so far hit one small part of one country in a big way which has taken extreme measures to prevent it's dissemination which look like they are going to be unsuccessful, flu is present in the whole world since the beginning of the year. Every indication is that Covid is going to be a lot more dangerous than seasonal flu.

indeed it has an area with poor hygiene and health facilities . With a high smoking rate amongst particularly males which has an impact on mortality rates .

every response has to be proportionate . There was a headline the other day saying cases surge in the U.K. . It was a couple of extra cases .

yesterday they said the cases went up 4 today they have revised it and said oh sorry they were all in fact negative.

the best information on the virus is the statistics and info on the Worldometer website which is great.
 
It's been explained numerous times already, but it's really not a valid comparison. What really matters is that 3,120 figure could potentially become 50+ million. The other figure won't reach anything close to that.

where is the science saying 50million plus . If that was likely backed by science and not hysteria we would be absolutely on lock down now .
 
Depends which one - the range of season influenzas includes mortality rates way above the worst case predictions for Covid 19.
I have seen predictions for potential new strains of pandemic flu have potentially high mortailty I have not seen predictions for any current circulating flu have high mortality predictions, Because new strains of pandemic flu could have serious mortality consequences it does not mean that Covid does not.
 
I have seen predictions for potential new strains of pandemic flu have potentially high mortailty I have not seen predictions for any current circulating flu have high mortality predictions, Because new strains of pandemic flu could have serious mortality consequences it does not mean that Covid does not.
All the current evidence is that mortality will be in the 1-4% range, less than other serious modern pandemics such as SARS, etc. The high infectivity rate is the great danger leading to large numbers of associated deaths simply because of the number of cases.
 
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indeed it has an area with poor hygiene and health facilities . With a high smoking rate amongst particularly males which has an impact on mortality rates .

every response has to be proportionate . There was a headline the other day saying cases surge in the U.K. . It was a couple of extra cases .

yesterday they said the cases went up 4 today they have revised it and said oh sorry they were all in fact negative.

the best information on the virus is the statistics and info on the Worldometer website which is great.
Have you seen any epidemiological work on smoking and Covid deaths , I have not? Drinking is far less prevalent in China which equally depresses your immune response and predisposes to pneumonia.
Just because newspaper headlines are alarmist and frequently inaccurate does not mean the underlying health concerns are not serious.
 
Have you seen any epidemiological work on smoking and Covid deaths , I have not? Drinking is far less prevalent in China which equally depresses your immune response and predisposes to pneumonia.
Just because newspaper headlines are alarmist and frequently inaccurate does not mean the underlying health concerns are not serious.

yes it’s on that Worldometer website explaining the higher mortality rate in China v rest of the world and men v women

have a look the science is there
 
All the current evidence is that morbidity will be in the 1-4% range, less than other serious modern pandemics such as SARS, etc. The high infectivity rate is the great danger leading to large numbers of associated deaths simply bevcaise of the number of cases.
The word is mortality , morbidity refers to being unwell not dead.
Yes SARS was a seriously lucky escape and I'm very glad it is not as bad as SARS but it has already killed a lot more people.
 
yes it’s on that Worldometer website explaining the higher mortality rate in China v rest of the world and men v women

have a look the science is there
I have not seen any epidemiological work about smoking there, the only rates even vaguely related are to do with the numbers having chronic respiratory disease which is very common in this country.
 
https://www.worldometers.info/

In the time we have discussed this quite a few more have died from flu, no more from corona virus thankfully

have a poke around on here really good stats and science on the mortality etc
Apparently they tried to do a live count of VAR decisions in favour of the rags and dippers and the server blew up.
 
I have not seen any epidemiological work about smoking there, the only rates even vaguely related are to do with the numbers having chronic respiratory disease which is very common in this country.

I found it on the website , have a look there are scientific articles if you click analysing the data
 
The word is mortality , morbidity refers to being unwell not dead.
Yes SARS was a seriously lucky escape and I'm very glad it is not as bad as SARS but it has already killed a lot more people.
Yes, sorry - mortality is the correct term but the main point you seem to be unable to grasp is that a higher death toll would be a consequence of more cases not a high mortality rate. Also pretending you are some sort of champion of 'science' when criticizing the views of others on here is a sure indication you haven't got a clue.
 
From the WHO
  1. We don't know how many were infected("When you look at how many people have died, you need to look at how many people where infected, and right now we don't know that number. So it is early to put a percentage on that."[1][2]).

Mortality rates are estimated at around 3% yet one of the issues they are finding is finding how many people have contracted the disease . In a lot of people the symptoms are mild akin to a cold . How many people have contracted the disease not reported it or tested for it and recovered .

the actual mortality rate may be less , who knows .

but I agree wash your hands and take sensible precautions
 
do you have shares in this website ?

no. it’s just a good source of sensible non hysterical fact base data . I am not getting the credit for this , I actually learnt about on bluemoon . It’s been posted a few times on this thread already. You should have a click about and educate yourself
 
Yes, sorry - mortality is the correct term but the main point you seem to be unable to grasp is that a higher death toll would be a consequence of more cases not a high mortality rate. Also pretending you are some sort of champion of 'science' when criticizing the views of others on here is a sure indication you haven't got a clue.
The high death toll is as a result of both the mortality rate and spread. Saying mortality is high or low is by comparison with other diseases the Case fatality rate is lower than SARS or MERS but the number of cases is going to be far higher.The Case fatality rate is likely to be far higher than standard seasonal flu and we remain in a bit of a state of uncertainty about what the incidence will be.
I don't know about pretending to be a champion of science but I can assure you I understand the science of it.
 
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