COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Ban-jani]

Isn’t that what showers are for?

I’d rather do it into some tissue.

Each to their own I suppose.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Yeah, it just doesn’t seem right at all. There are of course plenty more cases we don’t know about, but if they are factoring that into the mortality rate I’d be surprised as that would be pure guesswork. I’m just going to run with 6% because I don’t really see how it’s not that. Of the 41,105 active cases, 15% are classed as “serious or critical”. 6,153 people currently in that state, and you’d expect 2-3k won’t make it, taking the death count to just over 6000, out of just over 100,000 cases. It’s surely 6%? But I don’t claim to be an expert. I just know that out of the confirmed cases, 6% are dying.

The more I think about it, it must be because it takes less time to die than it does to recover.

So imagine 1000 people get it, and we report 50 dead and 100 recovered. The mortality rate is not 50/150 = 33% because of the 850 "active", a much higher proportion will recover.

 

[urban genie]

The Big C?

Yeah the company is called Central Ltd so they call their supermarket chain Big C.

I expect you are referencing we use that term for cancer, well cancer in Thai is pronounced Rokh Mareng so our meaning for it isn't even relevant over there.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

I’m saying cases to population is not a figure to talk about because not everyone has been exposed to it yet. It’s only been around a few months.

You could take the virus with you to Japan and make that number much higher over there. Imagine what the people of Japan would think of you for doing that.

and you could visit your mates house and take the virus with you there and make them all Infected.. Imagine what your mates would think if you did that.

your solution seems to be nobody should travel anywhere globally, or at all

so say now Manchester has cases , is your solution people in Manchester can’t travel in and out of Manchester. What next individual streets within manchester ,then individual houses?

 

[Dubai Blue]

Do you not get poo all over your hands when using water though? What do you do just spray it into your bumhole? Not being funny just interested. I use toilet paper then wet wipes in my bum cleaning routine so never used a bidet.

Yeah I've never used a bidet. We have "bum guns" over here next to every toilet (or shatafs to give them their correct name). Cheeks apart and spray. Job done.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

The more I think about it, t must be because it takes less time to die than it does to recover.

So imagine 1000 people get it, and we report 50 dead and 100 recovered. The mortality rate is not 50/150 = 33% because of the 850 "active", a much higher proportion will recover.

Yeah, it would make sense but I can’t reconcile that with there being over 6k still critical/serious. Seems likely the deaths amongst them will be in the thousands? 15% of the current active cases are in a really bad way.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Yeah I've never used a bidet. We have "bum guns" over here next to every toilet (or shatafs to give them their correct name). Cheeks apart and spray. Job done.

it’s never very tidy though is it. The toilet floor is often very wet .

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The "turns out to be controlled within a few weeks" bit, is just dreaming I think. This thing is highly infectious and global stats show each person infected is infecting between 2 and 3 others. With 500+ infected already in the uK (as there must surely be, based on current numbers and incubation periods) and of those we have no idea who or where any of them are, the genie is unfortunately well and truly out of the bottle. Nationwide exponential increase in numbers is IMO completely unavoidable now.

Maybe it's already done the rounds of the population and we are just seeing the worst cases coming to light and presenting at hospital?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The way we wipe our arses must be the most unhygienic thing we do in this country, it’s fucking foul what we do!

I take your point, but the most unhygienic? Really?

 

[cibaman]

Yeah, it just doesn’t seem right at all. There are of course plenty more cases we don’t know about, but if they are factoring that into the mortality rate I’d be surprised as that would be pure guesswork. I’m just going to run with 6% because I don’t really see how it’s not that. Of the 41,105 active cases, 15% are classed as “serious or critical”. 6,153 people currently in that state, and you’d expect 2-3k won’t make it, taking the death count to just over 6000, out of just over 100,000 cases. It’s surely 6%? But I don’t claim to be an expert. I just know that out of the confirmed cases, 6% are dying.

My guess is that the 100,000 is really 200-300,000. The longer this goes on the more that “active cases” turns into “serious cases”.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

and you could visit your mates house and take the virus with you there and make them all Infected.. Imagine what your mates would think if you did that.

your solution seems to be nobody should travel anywhere globally, or at all

so say now Manchester has cases , is your solution people in Manchester can’t travel in and out of Manchester. What next individual streets within manchester ,then individual houses?

That’s what they did in China and the rates started to decline

 

[aguero93:20]

I’d rather do it into some tissue.

Each to their own I suppose.

Dirty bastard.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Yeah I've never used a bidet. We have "bum guns" over here next to every toilet (or shatafs to give them their correct name). Cheeks apart and spray. Job done.

Do you not end up with everyone’s splash back on the gun? Is there a gun gun to clean that?

 

[Chippy_boy]

Maybe it's already done the rounds of the population and we are just seeing the worst cases coming to light and presenting at hospital?

Doesn't make any sense mate. Numbers would not be growing exponentially right now if that was the case.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Doesn't make any sense mate. Numbers would not be growing exponentially right now if that was the case.

Numbers could be driven by media induced panic making people turn up at a&e with cold symptoms? I had a bad time with flu a month ago and ended up on antibiotics. Only just better now and still not got full fitness back. If I got that ill now I'd probably be turning up at hospital and phoning the undertaker due to the media barrage.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Yeah, it would make sense but I can’t reconcile that with there being over 6k still critical/serious. Seems likely the deaths amongst them will be in the thousands? 15% of the current active cases are in a really bad way.

Yeah but 85% are not. If only 1 person in 15 who goes into intensive care dies (and none of the others do) then the mortality rate is only 1%.

I think it's higher than that personally - my guess is it's probably going to turn out to be around 3%. Which is why this is so damned frightening. If - as I expect - 30m or more Brits are going to get this, that would mean 1m dead. Seriously I think that's the sort of scale of how fucking serious this is.

 

[worsleyweb]

Yeah but 85% are not. If only 1 person in 15 who goes into intensive care dies (and none of the others do) then the mortality rate is only 1%.

I think it's higher than that personally - my guess is it's probably going to turn out to be around 3%. Which is why this is so damned frightening. If - as I expect - 30m or more Brits are going to get this, that would mean 1m dead. Seriously I think that's the sort of scale of how fucking serious this is.

I honestly can’t see 1m dead. It will be gone over summer.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Numbers could be driven by media induced panic making people turn up at a&e with cold symptoms? I had a bad time with flu a month ago and ended up on antibiotics. Only just better now and still not got full fitness back. If I got that ill now I'd probably be turning up at hospital and phoning the undertaker due to the media barrage.

And sometimes there is no conspiracy theory and what seems to be happening, is happening. Your theory whilst not impossible I suppose, is contrary to all worldwide data. Which shows it arriving in western countries a few weeks ago, a period of us trying to contain it, followed by exponential growth in numbers once containment fails and it's out and spreading.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

And sometimes there is no conspiracy theory and what seems to be happening, is happening. Your theory whilst not impossible I suppose, is contrary to all worldwide data. Which shows it arriving in western countries a few weeks ago, a period of us trying to contain it, followed by exponential growth in numbers once containment fails and it's out and spreading.

Not suggesting I'm right, just a possibility.

 

[Chippy_boy]

I honestly can’t see 1m dead. It will be gone over summer.

Fingers crossed. But as it is a completely new virus, no-one knows. And hope is not a strategy.