United (a) post-match thread

[Whymewhynot]

Sorry but anyone who has watched Pep Guardiola for 4 years and thinks it's rare that we adapt to our opponents isnt worth talking to.

In terms of our approach. He may change players to suit a game etc whilst playing our usual way of trying to dominate the game. Only other time I’ve seen it to that level was the 0-0 at Anfield, the other times we’ve played our usual way we’ve been twatted. It’s been an often criticism that whoever we play he sticks to his principles.

Sorry but anyone who thinks we didn’t play well in Madrid and we only scored through their errors isn’t worth talking to.

 

[Roachy]

The thread needed hours to get bigger than the thread about the game in Madrid.

Tells you a lot about the power of negativity that reigns on such forums.

This team can still win a treble this season but the moaners are in their element because a game that was less significant than SW in the FA Cup was lost against a team that has won fuck all recently and is 5th.

The season can still be brilliant, but after that what did you expect on a post match thread? People are cheesed off and understandably so.

 

[Blue Til Death]

I'm self isolating until the Arse game but it has absolutely fuck all to do with that overrated virus shit.....!!!

Lamentable performance against a distinctly average rag side .....

 

[domalino]

That's too pessimistic. W Ham comes after a 17 days long break, and we play Leicester away 3 days later. Leicester away is 4 days before our most important game all season. Madrid away is always tricky, we had 8 shots on target - as many as the other English clubs combined in that 1st leg. Liverpool had 0 shots on target against a team much worse than Real. Then we rotated in the league cup and played just 3 days later against a team defending with 7-8 players in the box.

We are playing every 3-4 days, we don't need to win with 3-4 goals. Since we are taking the cup competitions very seriously we can't afford to play with high intensity apart from the CL.

So what you're doing is just excusing the average performances....but it doesnt change the fact they were all average performances does it?

I'm not saying we need to win every game 4-0 but I would expect us to play at our best at least every few games.

I think people have forgotten just how good we were under Pep before this season and just how far away from that level we are now. Its completely unrecognisable.

 

[Stevieatlasblue]

Fucking rags at work saying they outplayed us! Where they watching a different fucking game, I hate losing a derby when I have to put up with this shit.

We played by far the better football and they just sat back. We were like the home team. Lap of honour for them it actually made me laugh. Oh how times have charged. They beat a very tiny club in Manchester with no fans and celebrated like they'd won the title.

 

[alexmcity]

The season can still be brilliant, but after that what did you expect on a post match thread? People are cheesed off and understandably so.

People are getting lost wrt to the big picture too easily. 8 from 9 possible trophies vs 0 from 9 possible for the rags. That's the really important thing. And we wouldn't have lost that game if Eddie hadn't had a stinker.

 

[paulchapo]

He's too laid back mate, his distribution has become very wayward as well. Pep needs a strong word with him or we'll be seeing a lot more of Bravo in future matches.

His calmness which was an asset is becoming a weakness. He gets beaten too easily by run of the mill shots and as you say his distribution success has dropped. He pulls out the odd top class save like the header against Madrid but even average keepers do that too. I'm not sure if its a concentration thing but he looked on another planet yesterday.

 

[waspish]

See why Pep plays B Silva mainly on the wing think kdb Foden and gundogan are better B Silva seems to receive the ball go round in circles then pass it back! He needs to learn to receive the ball max 2 touches then pass it and move.

 

[alexmcity]

So what you're doing is just excusing the average performances....but it doesnt change the fact they were all average performances does it?

I'm not saying we need to win every game 4-0 but I would expect us to play at our best at least every few games.

I think people have forgotten just how good we were under Pep before this season and just how far away from that level we are now. Its completely unrecognisable.

It was our best performance in the CL under Peo with our best defender unfit and a trio of top attackers in Sergio, Raz and Leroy not in form.

It's not about excusing the performances but understanding we play every 3-4 days now and we'd be silly to play at high intensity for 90 minutes apart from the CL. Villa away and Madrid away are apples and oranges.

 

[Boris Becker’s Backhand]

fine margins, sergio armpit offside and sterling missing that cross and we could of been 2-1 up

It’s all a bit of a blur to me but I dont remember us creating even one clear cut chance. We need to use our fast skilful wide men as fast skilful wide men and get them running at pace with the ball at defenders rather than just standing out wide playing Gundog / Rodri 5 yd passes inside to no effect whatsoever

 

[Whymewhynot]

So what you're doing is just excusing the average performances....but it doesnt change the fact they were all average performances does it?

I'm not saying we need to win every game 4-0 but I would expect us to play at our best at least every few games.

I think people have forgotten just how good we were under Pep before this season and just how far away from that level we are now. Its completely unrecognisable.

Your opinion is they all was average. They wasn’t.

 

[domalino]

It was our best performance in the CL under Peo with our best defender unfit and a trio of top attackers in Sergio, Raz and Leroy not in form.

It's not about excusing the performances but understanding we play every 3-4 days now and we'd be silly to play at high intensity for 90 minutes apart from the CL. Villa away and Madrid away are apples and oranges.

So we have to play badly now because we are playing ever 4 days but we managed to play much better in the same conditions in 2019 and 2018.

 

[Boris Becker’s Backhand]

For all shitness of the game itself, Ii had to watch it listening to commentator who had the crown of his career working on 1999 CL final and who used Manchester for Rags for whole game of Manchester derby. I wish I could have buttheaded him.

Beheaded sounds more appropriate mate

 

[domalino]

Your opinion is they all was average. They wasn’t.

Some of the results were good, the standard of our play wasnt

Also why cant you write "were"?

 

[City Man]

Of cause i'll be there, whick block are you in?

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[Alcatraz]

So what you're doing is just excusing the average performances....but it doesnt change the fact they were all average performances does it?

I'm not saying we need to win every game 4-0 but I would expect us to play at our best at least every few games.

I think people have forgotten just how good we were under Pep before this season and just how far away from that level we are now. Its completely unrecognisable.

It is way off where we were.....out better players are not performing or delivering. When you add players that are simply not good enough such as Cancelo or Zinchenko you are going to be below average.
What disappointed me was the lack of pace / quick movements / invention. Everything was slow and lacking in ideas.

 

[Whymewhynot]

Some of the results were good, the standard of our play wasnt

Also why cant you write "were"?

Standard of play in Madrid still was very good and I think you’ll be the only person to think the way you do. Always sign of someone losing. Thanks for the clarification :)

 

[Shirley]

I think the UEFA ban has had a much bigger impact on the players than we admitted.

We weren't good at West Ham, we weren't good vs. Leicester but got wins, we got run close by Villa in the cup final and in the cold light of day, away from the excitement of the comeback, Madrid gifted us 2 goals and it's one of the worst Madrid sides in 15 years. They let us back into that game.

I dont think we have played a 90 minutes up to our standard since the week of the Villa 6-1 and league cup first leg. Which was about 11 weeks ago.

It's obviously had a huge impact on the club and the players would have to be robots for it not to impact them. Pep is trying his best to protect the players.

 

[Boris Becker’s Backhand]

Some of the results were good, the standard of our play wasnt

Also why cant you write "were"?

Were not hear to learn English mate

 

[Roachy]

People are getting lost wrt to the big picture too easily. 8 from 9 possible trophies vs 0 from 9 possible for the rags. That's the really important thing. And we wouldn't have lost that game if Eddie hadn't had a stinker.

I'm not on about the trophies that I'm priveleged to have seen us win. If you come on the post match thread after a lame derby defeat, our third of the season, then this is what to expect. I for one will be right behind the team from here on in but that was poor. Let's not dress it up into something it wasn't.