COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Manchester33]

I have a somewhat paradoxical question...

Given the reduction of pollution in China as an example, and the number of cancelled flights/events worldwide. Not to mention the reduction in industrial emissions after workplaces are closed. Is it fair to assume that COVID-19 might indirectly save more lives than it takes, due to clearer air in urban areas and (possibly/hopefully) a reduction of CO2 emissions?

 

[bluemcr]

Just reading there's 2 types of the virus. One is more aggressive that mutated from the original one. Is that right or bullshit? Apparently Italy has the worst strain.

 

[inbetween]

Well one part of Lake Garda is in Lombardy, an other in Veneto... ;)
The problem is knowing for sure which people are infected and which are travelling or came in contact with someone infected but it's not simple at all, especially for this virus that can have a long incubation period.

lol, that would make a lot of sense! I don't know Italy very well.

She hasn't said much to us other than she hasn't caught it and she's enjoying the time off...

 

[hilts]

This is the knob jockey on 5 live before

Interviewer why aren't you testing people coming back from Italy on flights?

We have plans in place

What plans?

Err the crew are keeping an eye out

You're asking crew to diagnose the virus?

Err we have plans

What plans

Err just other plans

Fucking tool just admit you're doing nothing.

 

[inchy14]

Well not if they have any sense.

The British public??

 

[hilts]

I have a somewhat paradoxical question...

Given the reduction of pollution in China as an example, and the number of cancelled flights/events worldwide. Not to mention the reduction in industrial emissions after workplaces are closed. Is it fair to assume that COVID-19 might indirectly save more lives than it takes, due to clearer air in urban areas and (possibly/hopefully) a reduction of CO2 emissions?

No

 

[Super David Silva 21]

A Transport for London worker has reportedly tested positive for #coronavirus. The TfL employee is said to work in the traffic control centre building, in Blackfriars. Staff were reportedly told earlier and ordered to show up to work for business as usual.

 

[squirtyflower]

I was just thinking about that. China has a total population of 1.4bn. 1,437,611,143. Total cases in China are around 80,700. So 0.005% of the Chinese population have caught the virus. UK has 67m population so if we were as successful at containing the virus that would mean less than 4,000 cases.

I can’t see British people tolerating being sealed into their houses/apartments for several weeks.
There’s enough on here saying it’s scaremongering for me to think they would invoke their ‘human rights’ because they just want to party, and to have a good time, that’s all they want to do

 

[Blue Hefner]

A Transport for London worker has reportedly tested positive for #coronavirus. The TfL employee is said to work in the traffic control centre building, in Blackfriars. Staff were reportedly told earlier and ordered to show up to work for business as usual.

Where did you get that from?

 

[hilts]

A Transport for London worker has reportedly tested positive for #coronavirus. The TfL employee is said to work in the traffic control centre building, in Blackfriars. Staff were reportedly told earlier and ordered to show up to work for business as usual.

Good luck in sacking someone for self isolating

 

[grunge]

Just reading there's 2 types of the virus. One is more aggressive that mutated from the original one. Is that right or bullshit? Apparently Italy has the worst strain.

Its real. But they think the strain doing the rounds is actually the "sofer" one.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/covid-19-—-coronavirus.344314/page-286#post-12495112

 

[SWP's back]

EDIT: 1st death in Germany reported this morning. Some spokesperson saying "we've been sleepwalking over this" and "we will be like Italy in 2 to 3 weeks".

That’s alarming as they were the ones I was looking at for a way of keeping the deaths very low as they’d not had one despite 1,000 cases.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Agreed. It's exponential growth right now, with rates in the 25% to 40% per day range.

Do the maths.

280 (today) x 1.25 ^^ 14 = 6,366 confirmed infections by Monday 23rd March
or worse,
280 (today) x 1.35 ^^ 14 = 18,699 confirmed cases by Monday 23rd.

My guess is (hopefully) nearer the former. But as I implied above, we are essentially 2 weeks behind Italy right now. They have what, 7,000 cases as of today? Seems about right.

Yeah, we are basically Italy but few realise it yet. Though I do think we’ll have a lower mortality rate than Italy. I’m just looking at the population data and as of 2018 Italy had the highest percentage of total population over 65 in Europe at 22.6%. We were at 18.2% which was actually one of the lowest in Europe surprisingly.

 

[Super David Silva 21]

Where did you get that from?

Just come up on Twitter from a news reporter

 

[SWP's back]

The hysteria is unbelievable. On average 2,700 people die every day from malaria, that's fours times the global figures for coronavirus. The deaths have been amongst the elderly and those with existing health issues. We have elderly people battling through the "bug", comparing it to flu. Meanwhile the media is making money hand over fist with scaremongering gullible morons.

Has someone told this guy?^^^

 

[bluemcr]

Its real. But they think the strain doing the rounds is actually the "sofer" one.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/covid-19-—-coronavirus.344314/page-286#post-12495112

Ok cheers. I'm getting a bit worried to be honest. That's not like me lol

 

[grunge]

 

[hello]

I was just thinking about that. China has a total population of 1.4bn. 1,437,611,143. Total cases in China are around 80,700. So 0.005% of the Chinese population have caught the virus. UK has 67m population so if we were as successful at containing the virus that would mean less than 4,000 cases.

There is no way the UK would have a comparable % to China as we won't be able to restrict movement on anything like there scale and no means of enforcing it even if they did come up with a policy to limit movement. I Think the UK would be more likely to exceed the Chinese total number than matching their % .

 

[squirtyflower]

Yeah, we are basically Italy but few realise it yet. Though I do think we’ll have a lower mortality rate than Italy. I’m just looking at the population data and as of 2018 Italy had the highest percentage of total population over 65 in Europe at 22.6%. We were at 18.2% which was actually one of the lowest in Europe surprisingly.

Because everyone stays in work longer before taking their state pension, effectively killing them off for working longer

 

[west didsblue]

I have a somewhat paradoxical question...

Given the reduction of pollution in China as an example, and the number of cancelled flights/events worldwide. Not to mention the reduction in industrial emissions after workplaces are closed. Is it fair to assume that COVID-19 might indirectly save more lives than it takes, due to clearer air in urban areas and (possibly/hopefully) a reduction of CO2 emissions?

I had a similar thought. We have a global aim of reducing carbon emissions by 40% by 2030. It makes you wonder whether there will be an impact by reducing carbon emissions by that much effectively overnight for several months. I doubt it but I'm no expert.