COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[kaz7]

Sure

Absolutely, for me anyway ,this could have life or death for me had i not had training that allowed me to know i needed to get help really early,there are more important things than who the government is,i just want whoever it is to not ignore their own advice and do sensible/obvious things,i would feel a lot easier if they stopped large gatherings as they have done in other countries and other sports,it is a nonsense to ignore how people get there and back,our country is no different than anyone elses

 

[urban genie]

Democide is a rare occurance, though we may be seeing a government enacting a small version of it.

 

[andyhinch]

If you’re asking me if I want the PL cancelled to stop the dippers winning it then yes, I agree.

No I’m not, I’m asking about minimising cross contamination.

 

[Uffa]

They’re going to do it when it happens. The government thinks we’ll get a specific amount of time to lock down and they want to wait until the cases massively jumps to try and keep the NHS buoyed until the summer.

It’s really not fucking ideal but I get it.

I understand. The thing is, it seems funny you're copying our unwilling course of action; locking down when the case rate is in full spring. But maybe for you Brits it's going to work better than it has for us.
The whole run-up (that starts now) is going to take a toll out of the NHS. Arguably diluting the infection now with lock downs would have given the NHS more time to prepare through funds, reorganizing etc.

 

[kaz7]

Do you really think no one studying this thought about people using public transport to and from games before declaring that football wasnt a notable risk?

Well he didn't mention the travelling bit but if you read the rest of their advice it is at odds with having people travelling in large groups in essentialy tin cans,if other countries are not letting people do it than why does he think we can,i would have liked him to explain his thinking on that

 

[Mikeegrini]

In real terms we are not bothered about how many of them die, we wont be wasting resources on those people


Boris in his statement had to include the line some of your loved ones will die before their time.

He needs to be forced to show the numbers that their strategy will condemn to die versus other

available strategies. The numbers will be huge, however they know this country and others like

us need a meteorite strike or an acceptable eugenics policy to provide acceptable social care for an

ageing population. Hes been handed an acceptable eugenics policy on back of a cov virus strategy.

Just watching " Beyond 100 days" on BBC. Sadly they are reporting in Italy how ICU beds will be allocated. Basically.....Old...no chance, Underlying conditions....no chance. Beds will be triaged and offered to those with best chance of recovery. In time I don't see how it will be any different here.

 

[Len Rum]

Next question - if it was ok for 50000 punters to attend the City Arsenal game and mingle freely then why cancel the game because three Arsenal players might have had contact with an infected person?
Might it be that the risk to the 'assets' on the pitch is greater than concern for the average punter?

 

[SebastianBlue]

I certainly hope @Mad Eyed Screamer hasn’t recently taken a manager position with BioGen...

 

[Ban-jani]

I understand. The thing is, it seems funny you're copying our unwilling course of action; locking down when the case rate is in full spring. But maybe for you Brits it's going to work better than it has for us.
The whole run-up (that starts now) is going to take a toll out of the NHS. Arguably diluting the infection now with lock downs would have given the NHS more time to prepare through funds, reorganizing etc.

Yours might even be the best course of action in the long run. I don’t think we’ll know until we’re looking back on the whole thing.

They obviously have a level they want to keep it under, in terms of the NHS.

 

[domalino]

Well he didn't mention the travelling bit but if you read the rest of their advice it is at odds with having people travelling in large groups in essentialy tin cans,if other countries are not letting people do it than why does he think we can,i would have liked him to explain his thinking on that

Which countries have shut down all public transport?

 

[domalino]

This is exactly what they discussed in the press conference.

Open air sporting events you're not likely to infect many people. Small convention centre, everyone moving around and mingling, shaking hands etc is a disaster.

 

[kaz7]

Which countries have shut down all public transport?

They have done large gathering for sport not the transport itself

 

[domalino]

They have done large gathering for sport not the transport itself

But you said it was transport that was the problem. If public transport is the disaster you say it is, you must be arguing for it all to be shut down immediately.

 

[marco]

I honestly am losing faith with the stupid cunts in this world. Quite clearly the most logical thing to do to avoid this illness is to stay at home with your family for a few weeks and don’t interact with anyone else. Don’t know if I’m missing anything, but fucking hell it doesn’t take a fucking genius to work out that’s the best and sensible way.

it would seem lockdown is the only way, like you say two weeks or three..i think it will come to complete lockdown with the MOD on the streets,we dont have to wait to do that it could be done today, before people start dying we could even lockdown segments of the country at a time

 

[blueparrot]

But you said it was transport that was the problem. If public transport is the disaster you say it is, you must be arguing for it all to be shut down immediately.

To the events, no event no people travelling to it crammed on a bus, or tram.

 

[kaz7]

But you said it was transport that was the problem. If public transport is the disaster you say it is, you must be arguing for it all to be shut down immediately.

Jesus christ,it is so many people packed together inside sealed units that is the problem,if there is no event on it would stop millions doing it every week

 

[cibaman]

Exactly what I mean. The UK government is predicting that if we lockdown too early then people would begin to ignore the quarantine after a period time and then it’d be ineffective at the time that it’s needed most.

That’s why they’re waiting.

I can see there are pros and cons as to how early the schools should close, closing them for long periods of time will cause huge problems for parents and eventually there will be pushback. But there isn’t much that they can do to ignore it.

I don’t see how this timing issue applies at all to preventing large gatherings for the purposes of entertainment. If we’re not allowed to go to sports events until august, that isn’t a restriction we can ignore. We’re stuck with it, like it or not. It doesn’t even count as lockdown.

I can see that at some point they’re going to have to take tough decisions comparable to those implemented in Italy and that they don’t want to do that too soon. But restricting large gatherings now shouldn’t have any impact on their ability to make those decisions when the time is right.

 

[bobmcfc]

It’s counterproductive to the economy. The **** should just say it how it is.

That’s all they’re arsed about. They don’t want everyone off all at once as it will blow a hole in the economy and cost a lot of public money . Probably why he mentioned taking it on the chin the other

 

[domalino]

Jesus christ,it is so many people packed together inside sealed units that is the problem,if there is no event on it would stop millions doing it every week

To the events, no event no people travelling to it crammed on a bus, or tram.

But people travelling to events is a minuscule proportion of people traveling "packed together inside sealed units" and "crammed on a bus, or tram".

If that's the danger zone, we have to cancel public transport.

 

[Blue Hefner]

But you said it was transport that was the problem. If public transport is the disaster you say it is, you must be arguing for it all to be shut down immediately.

If a mass gathering wasn't happening then the strain on public transport would be less so i.e no need to be cramming people in