COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[George Hannah]

Just a tip when you do the laundry - machine washing your clothes will remove the virus but if you put them back into the same bag they were in before the virus can reinfect them.

 

[andyhinch]

If the government gave the scientific advisors the brief that their priority was to protect the economy rather than human lives this would leak out into the public domain quicker than you could say ‘callous bastards’.

You don’t think it happens ? Really

 

[BobKowalski]

The strategy is to extend the peak as you have posted and “also” in doing so build “some kind of herd immunity.” The strategy isn’t all about “herd immunity” as you have posted. That’s an aim as a byproduct of the main strategy as is evident from the quote.

I posted? When the aim of the CMO is to build up ‘herd immunity’ and we spend all week talking about ‘herd immunity’ and what it means and the pros and the cons of it and then the Health Sec says in a paywalled article that ‘herd immunity’ was not the goal or the aim it’s what my fault now for slavishly taking the CMO literally?

The point of a good comms strategy is to have a clear message. You do not get a clear message when you directly contradict what was said several days earlier. If herd immunity is no longer the aim then say so. If we are to move into the next phase with a different aim then say that. Also do not go on telly and plead for ventilators as if this was Red Nose Day. Just order them and instruct the companies to make them. Do not make a public plea.

 

[skivitheblue9320]

Now we’re in a situation with every other country seemingly going into lockdown and it being all over the news, leadership and communication is absolutely essential right now.

They have to start daily briefings to the public. the levels of concern and impact to mental health could be equally damaging as the pandemic itself.

Last time we heard from Boris was last Thursday he’s in lockdown

 

[hgblue]

You don’t think it happens ? Really

I’m saying that if that was the strategy there’s not a hope in hell of that not being made public.

 

[andyhinch]

I’m saying that if that was the strategy there’s not a hope in hell of that not being made public.

As someone who used to write them I’d suggest you’d be wrong.

 

[Uffa]

They have to start daily briefings to the public. the levels of concern and impact to mental health could be equally damaging as the pandemic itself.

That's a good suggestion. We have one with our pm informing the nation every evening on tv. It might be more obvious to us because we keep having new decrees so it's actually necessary, but being updated by the pm and by the leaders of the civil protection each evening gives you the impression of being watched over and not being left to your own devices.

 

[George Hannah]

That’s not true, I’m a Boris fan.

I don’t follow the logic and I’m not alone as 99% of other countries also don’t follow the UK’s logic.

What is the logical path you can't follow? Does it involve the strength and/or timing of compulsory social distancing measures?

 

[grunge]

If the government gave the scientific advisors the brief that their priority was to protect the economy rather than human lives this would leak out into the public domain quicker than you could say ‘callous bastards’.

possibly, but who know.


we are clearly not following the advice of the WHO. Dr Campbell feels the same way and articulates it better than me!

 

[skivitheblue9320]

Check out the league table of countries with the virus from the WHO. Perhaps the PL would like to get a sponsor for this? Parasites wanting to play matches, need to watch this going up everyday.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd

 

[marco]

i think we need to make financial aid to busineses now, someone on sky saying we need to suspend business rates,,also on the domestic side people must be worried about mortgage payments should they or all their family become sick, maybe roll out blanket defered payments say of 6 months and stuck on the end of the mortgage term will help, also simple things like gas and electricity pre payment wants suspending so people dont loose esentials in the freezer etc,it wants looking into now,not 10 minutes before it gets bad

 

[hgblue]

As someone who used to write them I’d suggest you’d be wrong.

So you believe the government has instituted a strategy which puts the economy ahead of protecting this country’s most vulnerable citizens?

 

[Saddleworth2]

Anyone else see a flaw in a plan that seeks to protect the elderly but wants to increase NHS capacity by asking retirees to rejoin?

 

[Phil1]

The U.K. has lost its advantage of being a few weeks behind a lot of Europe with their stance of carry on regardless.
Had you had the foresight to start lockdowns earlier I think you’d be in a much better position than you will in the next few weeks when Boris finally admits his measures haven’t worked and the inevitable lockdowns start.
It’s all very fucking depressing reading the same handful of posters who will never have a bad word said about the government continuing to do so in this thread.
Anyway - good luck over the next few months. Hope you all come out the other side fairly intact both health wise and socially.
Quite lucky here that at least the sun is shining, though that’s due to change tomorrow with rain forecast for a few days. I expect that’s when a few will go stir crazy!

 

[andyhinch]

So you believe the government has instituted a strategy which puts the economy ahead of protecting this country’s most vulnerable citizens?

At no point have I posted that.

 

[Marvin]

Tracking the infection is going to get awkward if infected people are staying at home and not getting tested. How are the Gvt going to know what the incident rate/ recovered rate etc?

They will get the serious cases in their hospitals and of course the deaths but will they be left with modelling most of the data?

 

[thismustbetheplace]

So you believe the government has instituted a strategy which puts the economy ahead of protecting this country’s most vulnerable citizens?

It certainly looks that way.

 

[marco]

It certainly looks that way.

beat me to it hahahah

 

[sir baconface]

the WHO made it very clear “alarming levels of inaction” that we ( and others ) are not doing everything we can to help. The WHO’s goal is no 1.

“We’re Not Gonna Take It”.

 

[thismustbetheplace]

You can bet your life these bastards in government telling us to carry on regardless have access to the best of healthcare and wont' be fighting for hospital beds.