No doubt about that either.
That's the difference mate they had a Paddy's parade in m/Cr at the weekend yet we're on a little island and daren't fucking move some of what I'm reading about back home is crazy.I suppose it depends on how much money youhave if you can pay your mortgage with both out of work on lockdown
I would call it serious.
What I quoted was only to show how serious the Spanish are taking it unlike some countries
Agreed. I've tenants in Clontarf and both are already out of work. I can cover the mortgage for a few months and I'm not going to pressure them but I can't keep it going indefinitely.There was talk of it and hopefully it will come. The rent situation in the city will be critical as €203 wouldn't rent a kennel in Dublin.
Good, that's encouraging. Everything possible must be done.No, all their calculations were based on the 5000 ICU beds before the outbreak. The government have said they might be able to increase that "several fold" with commandeering private hospitals and using operating rooms that would have been doing non-emergency surgeries.
Could it be the data that was used was the only data that was available at the time and your concept of another set of 'actual data' is a complete fiction? The self-fulfilling prophecy business on here is thriving.
I hope that things recover in time for your business to not be so badly affected - is there a way in which it can be done more remotely? Sorry that could be daft as I do not know what you do.My business has just had the next 6 months of orders wiped out. I can cut my cloth but impact beyond September leaves me in tatters. Six months of opportunity to paint the house, get a ripped body and watch shite tv.....
Take care Blues. Hope your livelihoods are ok.
Do you work in a kebab shop :)No difference today in work, no one allowed to work from home unless a family member in the same house has an illness that puts them at risk.
No wipes, no hand gels, no fcuking soap in the toilets ffs.
Luckily i've got my own
Yes agreed.This is one of my worries, that by trying to minimise deaths from the virus now we only succeed in pushing the boat downstream if we come out the other side with an economic wasteland as a "present" to the next generation - that will have its own significant death toll in the longer term.
Doesn’t seem like a fair comparison to make? How many flu deaths would there be if we had social distancing, isolated the elderly/at risk and closed schools for 60% of a normal year?1600 die from flu on average in the UK and there's going to be a big overlap.
That would make this 5x worse than flu.
Yes, I'm a "boomer" too, born in 1954. The government is going to have to lean hard on the banks with regard to their attitude to defaults on loans, unauthorised overdrafts etc - millions will be facing difficulties paying basic bills if this lockdown is stretching to 18 months on and off.Yes agreed.
I am a "baby boomer" - a child of the 60's born at a time when the UK started to look up again, to a brighter future and people were confident once more. The salutory point is that this was 15 years after the end of WW2. Now of course I am not suggesting that our infrastructure and ways of life will be anything like as badly as disrupted as in WW2, but nevertheless, it *could* take a long time for things to get back to normal.
Or it could not. If we do everything we can to keep businesses afloat and keep people in employment (even if unable to work), able to pay their bills and stay in their homes, then we can come out the other side relatively unscathed. But if you cannot shop at Marks & Spencer because they don't exist anymore, or go on holiday with EasyJet because there is no EasyJet, then it will take a lot longer.
Thanks for clarification SB.I think this is a fair discussion for this thread as long as it doesn’t involved attribution to particular party, official, or platform.
If we can discuss it in the abstract as you have it should stay here as it is a very real issue that will impact the current crisis.
Over 70s
Mr Whitty said: "This is a quite large group, of people who are over 70 (and possibly quite healthy)".
He added: "We know that older people are at greater risk but that doesn't necessarily mean that they will get it worse."
People who have a significant health condition
Mr Whitty said: "These are mainly adults we want them to take even great care. This is critical."
He said the geoup included: "People in adult life who would normally be advised to have the flu jab with chronic conditions like chronic heart disease or chronic kidney disease."
Pregnant women
Mr Whitty described this as "a precautionary measure" because "we are early in out understanding of this virus and we want to be sure, [so will include] women who are pregnant".
Interesting. Pretty sure @karen7 posted the other day saying that anti-malarial drug was the way forward.Probably posted but some potential good news https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Australian-researchers-CURE-coronavirus.html
My wife works for the government all told to work from home last night
Servers cant cope this morning
What a mess
Combination of that and the antiviral drugs used on HIV patients is what's being reported. Hardly a tailored solution though.Interesting. Pretty sure @karen7 posted the other day saying that anti-malarial drug was the way forward.
Yep.Apparently there have been cases eg dengue fever where they have produced a vaccine which seemed would be effective in that they caused the body to produce antibodies. But when they were fully tested it was found that the vaccine made the disease worse.