COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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mexico1970 said:
That's not a balcony, it's an observation platform bud.
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I can nearly see South America hahaha

There are couple of advantages being this high up , one of course is the view, the others are no flying insects and lovely breezes straight off the Pacific, we have air conditioning but never used it.
 
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/im...-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

"Perhaps our most significant conclusion is that mitigation is unlikely to be feasible without emergency
surge capacity limits of the UK and US healthcare systems being exceeded many times over. In the
most effective mitigation strategy examined, which leads to a single, relatively short epidemic (case
isolation, household quarantine and social distancing of the elderly), the surge limits for both general
ward and ICU beds would be exceeded by at least 8-fold under the more optimistic scenario for critical
care requirements that we examined. In addition, even if all patients were able to be treated, we
predict there would still be in the order of 250,000 deaths in GB, and 1.1-1.2 million in the US.
In the UK, this conclusion has only been reached in the last few days, with the refinement of estimates
of likely ICU demand due to COVID-19 based on experience in Italy and the UK (previous planning
estimates assumed half the demand now estimated) and with the NHS providing increasing certainty
around the limits of hospital surge capacity.
We therefore conclude that epidemic suppression is the only viable strategy at the current time. The
social and economic effects of the measures which are needed to achieve this policy goal will be
profound. Many countries have adopted such measures already, but even those countries at an earlier
stage of their epidemic (such as the UK) will need to do so imminently.
Our analysis informs the evaluation of both the nature of the measures required to suppress COVID19
and the likely duration that these measures will need to be in place. Results in this paper have
informed policymaking in the UK and other countries in the last weeks. However, we emphasise that
is not at all certain that suppression will succeed long term; no public health intervention with such
disruptive effects on society has been previously attempted for such a long duration of time. How
populations and societies will respond remains unclear."

"non-pharmaceutical interventions" is pertinent.
 
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TCIB said:
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/im...-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf

"Perhaps our most significant conclusion is that mitigation is unlikely to be feasible without emergency
surge capacity limits of the UK and US healthcare systems being exceeded many times over. In the
most effective mitigation strategy examined, which leads to a single, relatively short epidemic (case
isolation, household quarantine and social distancing of the elderly), the surge limits for both general
ward and ICU beds would be exceeded by at least 8-fold under the more optimistic scenario for critical
care requirements that we examined. In addition, even if all patients were able to be treated, we
predict there would still be in the order of 250,000 deaths in GB, and 1.1-1.2 million in the US.
In the UK, this conclusion has only been reached in the last few days, with the refinement of estimates
of likely ICU demand due to COVID-19 based on experience in Italy and the UK (previous planning
estimates assumed half the demand now estimated) and with the NHS providing increasing certainty
around the limits of hospital surge capacity.
We therefore conclude that epidemic suppression is the only viable strategy at the current time. The
social and economic effects of the measures which are needed to achieve this policy goal will be
profound. Many countries have adopted such measures already, but even those countries at an earlier
stage of their epidemic (such as the UK) will need to do so imminently.
Our analysis informs the evaluation of both the nature of the measures required to suppress COVID19
and the likely duration that these measures will need to be in place. Results in this paper have
informed policymaking in the UK and other countries in the last weeks. However, we emphasise that
is not at all certain that suppression will succeed long term; no public health intervention with such
disruptive effects on society has been previously attempted for such a long duration of time. How
populations and societies will respond remains unclear."
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anyone seen an iceberg?
 
we have a curfew, that will be not taken lightly by the police, the venezuealan bakery was open though I`m not sure if they will open again for a few weeks, the chinese supermarket was open so we got some pilsner. beautiful weather the beach was empty, some great surf rolling in, cant really think of anywhere else I would rather be for this. no cases of the virus here yet and all public transport has stopped so we just have to wait this out. a few north americans stuck here, all airports closed, could be worse......
 
Marvin said:
Seem to be a lot of asymptomatic celebrities and footballers (who can find ways of getting tested) who are asymptomatic. I think we may find that when the antibodies text comes in we might find that a lot more people have had it than we think
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There was definitely something going around in January which I had which displayed similar symptoms to those ascribed to Covid-19, sore throat, loads of coughing, knackered, - not sure either way about my temperature tbf, which took me several weeks to shake it off. There seemed to be loads of it about at the time, although it was January tbf.
 
cleavers said:
I've a large balcony so I'll be able to sit out and enjoy it if it happens, even if I'm working from home, I'll try not to cough or sneeze on those below though.
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It’s a balmy 28 here and I’m spending most of my time on the balcony looking at the palm trees and getting a bit of sun.

They’ve officially closed all not food stores now so there’s literally no where to go and nothing to do. We went and bought yoga mats yesterday and I’m stuck with my wife for the next month. Found out she’s a teacher. Now about to download that Champs. Manager so I can pretend I’m working.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
There was definitely something going around in January which I had which displayed similar symptoms to those ascribed to Covid-19, sore throat, loads of coughing, knackered, - not sure either way about my temperature tbf, which took me several weeks to shake it off. There seemed to be loads of it about at the time, although it was January tbf.
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Same, mid January I was off work for the first time in about 7 years for a week with “the flu”. Coughing like a mo fo and felt like I’d run a marathon.

Chances are it was just the flu but I’m hoping against hope that it was Covid so I do t have to go through that joy at some point in the future.
 
Had an email, prepare to do project work from home after monday, bit hard for a caterer to work from home though.

Feel for those that will go stir crazy if they have nowhere to go just to get exercise or some fresh air.

I will be dusting off the cross trainer and planing morning walks round debdale park when no fucker is around to have contact with just to see more than the view of railway across fom my house.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
It’s only regionalist if the person using it makes comments about people from that region being inferior than people from the region the person is from.

Description is not racism/xenophobia/regionalism.
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I think that’s too narrow a definition of racism. I think ascribing other negative characteristics to a race of people is also highly capable of being racist. For example, the Victorian view of the Chinese was that they were intelligent but cunning and deceitful, who used their intelligence for nefarious purposes. I’m not sure that particular example attributes characteristics to a race of people that renders them to be inferior, at least not in the sense I believe you meant.

There’s little doubt in my mind that Trump’s intent was racist, however his words are (most likely) not inaccurate. This virus appears to have been created in a Chinese, man-made environment, one which displayed little or no regard for hygiene standards, cross-contamination of animal matter, the effects of eating novel foodstuffs or the delicate balance of nature. Its effects have been accentuated by China’s lack of candour in the early days of the spread of the disease (although this doesn’t mark anything out of the ordinary tbf). Moreover, I expect China will be under significant international diplomatic pressure following this to introduce far reaching mitigation measures around the risks associated with wet markets.

So, I don’t think calling it a Chinese virus is necessarily racist, especially as the Chinese have to (most likely) take significant responsibility for it.
 
SWP's back said:
It’s a balmy 28 here and I’m spending most of my time on the balcony looking at the palm trees and getting a bit of sun.

They’ve officially closed all not food stores now so there’s literally no where to go and nothing to do. We went and bought yoga mats yesterday and I’m stuck with my wife for the next month. Found out she’s a teacher. Now about to download that Champs. Manager so I can pretend I’m working.
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Out of interest mate, I could do with a game to play on iPad to keep me away from constant news - which footy manager game is supposed to be the best, any idea?
 
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