COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[kaz7]

Unfortunately, there is a reason many NHS staff are not currently being tested. And I want to be clear, I am not saying I condone this at all, as I do think this is problematic for both trust in the response and for long-term health outcomes.

If they test positive they must be isolated and potentially treated (depending on the severity) which will remove those health professionals from the pool managing treatment, further reducing capacity as case volume only increases (including those health professionals ‘switching sides’, which is a big swing). You can see how things might spiral once comprehensive testing begins. Some of this is already going on with health professionals that have been presumptively identified as infected via symptomatic assessment.

Of course, that also means many of those health professionals that are infected (but not showing symptoms sufficient for presumptive positive identification) may be contributing to the transmission of the virus to individuals in hospital that were not already infected with the novel coronavirus, including those with comprised immune systems and other high risk underlying conditions.

It’s a horrible situation for all involved with no easy solution.

The healthcare workers will be distraught knowing they are probably passing it to their patients,the first rule is do no harm,it is neither morally or ethical to not test them

 

[MCFC1993]

Fair play to Gary Neville, he'll continue paying the wages of all the staff at his hotels and whilst his hotels are shut to the public, they will be open to NHS workers. He seems like a genuinely decent bloke.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

No but if we're told to enforce order at food stores we'd happily place a bullet through your skull mate,, hope that's clear enough.

I’d block it with a trolley full of toilet rolls!

 

[oakiecokie]

what about us dwarves!

Stand on the bodies.Come on its not difficult.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Well I didn’t think that they’d fire tank shells at me and blow me to smithereens if I decided to go for a walk to get some fresh air during a lockdown.

Are they going to fly over and drop bombs on our houses if we have our windows open n’all?

Only if you refuse to stop singing bloody arias!

 

[oakiecokie]

Well I didn’t think that they’d fire tank shells at me and blow me to smithereens if I decided to go for a walk to get some fresh air during a lockdown.

Are they going to fly over and drop bombs on our houses if we have our windows open n’all?

For fucks sake don`t do any gardening.

 

[marco]

The figures just aren't close to being correct.

People are dying without ever being tested for it and thousands are at home feeling like shit but haven't been tested.

All Governments have certainly been caught with their pants around our ankles with this, since the cold war ended and im going back what over 40 years biological warfare or natural virus has been quite a possiblility and as much of a threat as a nuclear strike, infact its been that much of a threat they have made films about this kind of thing,,i honestly thought there was a better plan than wash your hands

 

[SebastianBlue]

The healthcare workers will be distraught knowing they are probably passing it to their patients,the first rule is do no harm,it is neither morally or ethical to not test them

I cannot argue this is not a clear ethical dilemma, Karen — I am only trying to explain the difficult situation for which there is no great option for resolution.

 

[oakiecokie]

Fair play to Gary Neville, he'll continue paying the wages of all the staff at his hotels and whilst his hotels are shut to the public, they will be open to NHS workers. He seems like a genuinely decent bloke.

100% behind him there.Whatever and wherever his allegiances lay,fair play to the lad.

 

[kaz7]

Fair play to Gary Neville, he'll continue paying the wages of all the staff at his hotels and whilst his hotels are shut to the public, they will be open to NHS workers. He seems like a genuinely decent bloke.

The hospitality industry were told yesterday that insurers have agreed to pay out to them all,very nice of him to put up nhs workers,is it for free?

 

[marco]

Does the Irish army have tanks?

Genuine question not taking the piss

yes but they only have reverse gear

 

[aguero93:20]

I’d block it with a trolley full of toilet rolls!

Haha good luck so.

 

[aguero93:20]

yes but they only have reverse gear

Funny that, the only tanks we ever saw with a reverse gear belonged to you lot.

 

[SebastianBlue]

It was described yesterday at the select Committee. It's simply due to the limit on number of tests. They are using almost all the tests to identify people arriving in hospital with Influenza Like Illnesses as either COVID or not. Because they have to get the COVID cases on respirators asap.

That is *an* explanation, mate. It’s likely not the primary reason, as I have described in my post. The resistance to testing health workers will likely continue beyond increased availability of testing, even if the official word is that more testing will be available to health workers.

This has happened with previous larger scale outbreaks — unfortunately, I have seen it firsthand.

 

[kaz7]

The Director-General of the World Health Organisation Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus says isolating, testing, treating and tracing every suspected coronavirus case must be the backbone of the global response to the pandemic


WHO chief Dr Tedros calls on all countries to implement comprehensive strategies to slow down the pandemic and flatten its curve

We are so behind with testing

Boris coming up

Follow on here if you are not watching the telly

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...ct-renters-and-people-on-low-incomes-11959489

 

[Indaparkside]

Medical and NHS staff aren’t being tested.

It sucks for you guys but at the end of the day schools can close. The first people to be tested should be NHS staff and GPs, then the emergency services and then staff working in stores that HAVE to remain open.

Police officers, paramedics and fire crews are currently attending daily incidents as normal.

 

[marco]

Funny that, the only tanks we ever saw with a reverse gear belonged to you lot.

we like to feel we can get out of trouble as fast as we get in it,,,well oddball said that in kellys hero's

 

[Indaparkside]

Reporter
Me president someone in the White House used the phrase Kung flu is this putting Asian Americans at risk!!! No they’d agree haha

 

[AlgarveBlu]

Caught the last 5 minutes of an interview today with the CEO of Merck Pharmaceuticals from the U.S. on CNBC and he said that the world was in danger of taking their eye off the ball in terms of what is possibly going to cause a majority of the deaths whilst the immune system is fighting off the virus which is bacterial pneumonia as was the case with around 50% of deaths during the swine flu epidemic and that we need to make sure we have our ducks in a row with respect to antibiotics etc. I don't know the company that well anymore so I suppose they are probably major suppliers of antibiotics.

 

[aguero93:20]

we like to feel we can get out of trouble as fast as we get in it,,,well oddball said that in kellys hero's

Ha. Sceal a maith