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Surely with mounting pressure from the media and a lot of the public, they have to do something today.

If they don't then I really despair.
 
Don't worry, 'we're ramping up' according to the Health Secretary...
Should manage a couple of thousand by a week next Friday.

It's pathetic given the advance warning this was coming that they waited until we were smack bang in the middle of it before desperately scrambling around to get testing kits and protective equipment for front line workers.
 
If they are, then they are fucking champions. Very small amount of deaths and they even haven't gone to total lockdown. I'm bit skeptic though, looks too early to be the peak.

It would be so remarkable it's hard to believe. Would be great if @Marvin would supply a source for big claims like that.
 
Surely with mounting pressure from the media and a lot of the public, they have to do something today.

If they don't then I really despair.

From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52003076. This is this morning on the Tube
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They've updated, I posted just after public announce by spanish authorities. It's 410 now there, though some sources have it at around 460. I guess the main problem with different numbers at different sources are due to different day reset times. Spain is bit tricky too, they have this big morning update, but some cases are being updated later in a day too.

Yes, just saw it change after I'd posted. That seems to be the highest number of new cases Spain has reported in one day.
 
It would be so remarkable it's hard to believe. Would be great if @Marvin would supply a source for big claims like that.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...tbreak-cases-meetings-bans-update-latest-news

Germany: signs exponential growth curve of new infections levelling off for first time
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Kate Connolly

In Germany, there were signs that the exponential upwards curve in new coronavirus infections is levelling off for the first time due to the strict social distancing measures in force, the head of the country’s public health institute said on Monday.

However, Lothar Wieler, the president of the Robert Koch Institute, urged caution, saying many health authorities had not yet submitted their data from the weekend. “I will only be able to confirm this trend definitively on Wednesday,” he said. But he said he remained optimistic.

Germany has closed all its schools, and on Sunday ruled that no more than two people can gather at once, except for families or people sharing a household.

Wieler said that current data on Germany´s Covid 19 cases indicates that the average age of those infected is 45, the average age of those who have died is 82. Fifty-seven per cent of those with confirmed infections have so far been men, 43% are women. Of the symptoms people have experienced, the most common is coughing (55%) and fever (40%).

In his daily briefing, which has just ended, he appealed to German medical students to volunteer in the increasing effort to track all new cases, which he said continued to be an important part in the fight against the virus.

A nationwide collection data point called Cosmos, which is gathering data on how the illness is being fought, shows a considerable increase in awareness of the virus, but still a considerable gap between awareness and behaviour, he said. Mobile phone data monitored anonymously at the weekend, of 30 million mobile phone users, showed that people have considerably reduced their mobility, but still not as much as was necessary, he said. Keeping a distance, regular hand washing and sneezing or coughing into the elbow still remained the most effective ways to avoid the spread of coronavirus, he added. “Keeping your distance is the order of the day,” he said.

There are about 24,859 cases of coronavirus in Germany. There have so far been 97 reported deaths.

Wieler responded to reports that Germany was not being upfront with the number of deaths owing to the fact the figure is relatively low compared with other countries. He confirmed that in Germany anyone who has died having been diagnosed with coronavirus is registered as having died from the virus, even if they had other illnesses, or medical complications.

Meanwhile, Angela Merkel, who has been quarantined at home since yesterday after a doctor who administered a vaccine to her was tested positive for the virus, reportedly dialled in via telephone to the cabinet meeting of her government this morning.
 
So the guy who normally gives me a lift to work has booked the day off today which meant I had to get the bus. Well 2 buses - one into town and one to Trafford Park. I’m not sure what others made of the green latex gloves I’m wearing but luckily both buses weren’t too busy and I managed to find a seat that constitutes a safe distance from other passengers. While walking across to catch my second bus in Piccadilly Gardens I noticed a couple of signs up in the window of Greggs. One stated that they’re now only taking card payments and the other was requesting that customers stand 2 metres apart. From what I could see when looking over it didn’t look like the latter was being adhered to at all.
Travelling on public transport without wearing a surgical mask or better is just looking for the virus to be spread. It dramatically reduces the chances of the wearer spreading the virus though it doesn't do much to stop the wearer catching it - hand washing and not touching your face does that.
Sadly those that said wearing a mask isn't necessary will look to be cockeombles if the advice is changed.The sooner this is done though, the better for all, as without this measure, mass transit systems are virus spreading machines.
If you dont believe me ask yourself why surgery teams wear them?
 
It's pathetic given the advance warning this was coming that they waited until we were smack bang in the middle of it before desperately scrambling around to get testing kits and protective equipment for front line workers.

If Government ministers are looking decidedly uncomfortable now, I rather fear for them in a fortnight's time.
 
I think what this situation is proving, is that pure capitalism has gone way to far. We need to move back into the middle and bring more elements of socialism back into society and quickly.
This has never been a pure capitalist society and already is very much in the middle of the road.

You may also want to familiarise yourself with the financial package the Govt put together including paying workers wages.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...tbreak-cases-meetings-bans-update-latest-news

Germany: signs exponential growth curve of new infections levelling off for first time
Kate-Connolly.jpg

Kate Connolly

In Germany, there were signs that the exponential upwards curve in new coronavirus infections is levelling off for the first time due to the strict social distancing measures in force, the head of the country’s public health institute said on Monday.

However, Lothar Wieler, the president of the Robert Koch Institute, urged caution, saying many health authorities had not yet submitted their data from the weekend. “I will only be able to confirm this trend definitively on Wednesday,” he said. But he said he remained optimistic.

Germany has closed all its schools, and on Sunday ruled that no more than two people can gather at once, except for families or people sharing a household.

Wieler said that current data on Germany´s Covid 19 cases indicates that the average age of those infected is 45, the average age of those who have died is 82. Fifty-seven per cent of those with confirmed infections have so far been men, 43% are women. Of the symptoms people have experienced, the most common is coughing (55%) and fever (40%).

In his daily briefing, which has just ended, he appealed to German medical students to volunteer in the increasing effort to track all new cases, which he said continued to be an important part in the fight against the virus.

A nationwide collection data point called Cosmos, which is gathering data on how the illness is being fought, shows a considerable increase in awareness of the virus, but still a considerable gap between awareness and behaviour, he said. Mobile phone data monitored anonymously at the weekend, of 30 million mobile phone users, showed that people have considerably reduced their mobility, but still not as much as was necessary, he said. Keeping a distance, regular hand washing and sneezing or coughing into the elbow still remained the most effective ways to avoid the spread of coronavirus, he added. “Keeping your distance is the order of the day,” he said.

There are about 24,859 cases of coronavirus in Germany. There have so far been 97 reported deaths.

Wieler responded to reports that Germany was not being upfront with the number of deaths owing to the fact the figure is relatively low compared with other countries. He confirmed that in Germany anyone who has died having been diagnosed with coronavirus is registered as having died from the virus, even if they had other illnesses, or medical complications.

Meanwhile, Angela Merkel, who has been quarantined at home since yesterday after a doctor who administered a vaccine to her was tested positive for the virus, reportedly dialled in via telephone to the cabinet meeting of her government this morning.

Yeah, I thought so. Infection numbers levelling off is not the same as being close the peak.
 
we have decided to call it at our house today?

I have had a scratchy throat for a couple of weeks, an irritant cough, but nothing persistent. No real temperature. Last two days my cough has become more regular and working hard to hack and clear my airways (without much luck) I also have a leaky nose. It's my eyes though, they feel really dry and stingy - is that even a symptom?

I have purposely stayed at home the majority of this time and stayed away from people, wife and kids have no symptoms. Just keep our distance from each other and enjoying the garden.

All of the above I would also get for allergies/hay fever but not sure if even the season for it?

I'm frustrated by this because feel strong. My little girl's birthday tomorrow. The plan is for me to sleep in my office and continue to work in there through the day, with the kids being home in their own rooms studying.

Apart from that, I do the 14-days - they do seven - we just retain two metre distance within our own home?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Germany’s curve is flattening whilst Spain’s is awful.

The latter have more authoritarian measures in place.

How?
 
Spain's deaths have jumped by 600+, this is in spite of being on lockdown for two weeks. Maybe this was expected as people were infected prior to the lockdown,?
I’d say so. And taking it into their household to infect those they live with.

I think people should be encouraged to stay in different rooms within the house.
 
we have decided to call it at our house today?

I have had a scratchy throat for a couple of weeks, an irritant cough, but nothing persistent. No real temperature. Last two days my cough has become more regular and working hard to hack and clear my airways (without much luck) I also have a leaky nose. It's my eyes though, they feel really dry and stingy - is that even a symptom?

I have purposely stayed at home the majority of this time and stayed away from people, wife and kids have no symptoms. Just keep our distance from each other and enjoying the garden.

All of the above I would also get for allergies/hay fever but not sure if even the season for it?

I'm frustrated by this because feel strong. My little girl's birthday tomorrow. The plan is for me to sleep in my office and continue to work in there through the day, with the kids being home in their own rooms studying.

Apart from that, I do the 14-days - they do seven - we just retain two metre distance within our own home?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
I thought you would ALL have to do 14 days, unless I’ve understood it wrong?
 
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