UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Dirty Harry]

Sorry if this has been covered as I havent been keeping up with football lately but I have one question.

Due to this terrible virus, and the possible delay in the CAS hearing.

And I understand football might not be going ahead anyway

But if champions leagues goes ahead next season and we are ban because of a delay to our hearing at CAS. Than once CAS has found us not guilty will City be able to sue UEFA for loss of income for that season we have missed through not fault of our own ?

I would imagine so, can't see why not, we see recompense for various 'miscarriages of justice' (for want of a better phrase) and compensation paid out, as I understand it, this is where we'd have a very good case in that UEFA have acted as 'Judge, Jury and executioner', so, they have to run an objectively fair process if they purport to sit in judgement.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Sorry if this has been covered as I havent been keeping up with football lately but I have one question.

Due to this terrible virus, and the possible delay in the CAS hearing.

And I understand football might not be going ahead anyway

But if champions leagues goes ahead next season and we are ban because of a delay to our hearing at CAS. Than once CAS has found us not guilty will City be able to sue UEFA for loss of income for that season we have missed through not fault of our own ?

I'm sure we will be able to do that. And the more O think about it, the more I suspect that us not asking for a suspension of the ban via CAS is a 'who blinks first' tactic. If UEFA don't suspend the ban, we miss out on CL but it's subsequently set aside by CAS, then we sue the arse off them. Their finances don't appear to be that healthy so that could potentially be fatal for them. Even better, they might have to significantly reduce CL prize money, which will hit the ****s Cartel.

If, as we suspect, UEFA's case is (literally) paper thin, then they won't want to risk that happening so they'll hopefully suspend the ban unilaterally & we can then say "Well we didn't ask for that"

 

[waspish]

I'm sure we will be able to do that. And the more O think about it, the more I suspect that us not asking for a suspension of the ban via CAS is a 'who blinks first' tactic. If UEFA don't suspend the ban, we miss out on CL but it's subsequently set aside by CAS, then we sue the arse off them. Their finances don't appear to be that healthy so that could potentially be fatal for them. Even better, they might have to significantly reduce CL prize money, which will hit the ****s Cartel.

If, as we suspect, UEFA's case is (literally) paper thin, then they won't want to risk that happening so they'll hopefully suspend the ban unilaterally & we can then say "Well we didn't ask for that"

Thing is though the rags will get that a slot and the money thus helping them out in there need that the rags plan I expect they won’t give a shit if sue them if we not in it. It’s self interest as always by the scum and the Glazers.

 

[nmc]

I'm sure we will be able to do that. And the more O think about it, the more I suspect that us not asking for a suspension of the ban via CAS is a 'who blinks first' tactic. If UEFA don't suspend the ban, we miss out on CL but it's subsequently set aside by CAS, then we sue the arse off them. Their finances don't appear to be that healthy so that could potentially be fatal for them. Even better, they might have to significantly reduce CL prize money, which will hit the ****s Cartel.

If, as we suspect, UEFA's case is (literally) paper thin, then they won't want to risk that happening so they'll hopefully suspend the ban unilaterally & we can then say "Well we didn't ask for that"

A very good point re brinkmanship and a good tactic by the club. I wonder whether 10 Premier League Clubs will get a claim for damages for being complicit in any ban we serve!

 

[give it to gordon]

A very good point re brinkmanship and a good tactic by the club. I wonder whether 10 Premier League Clubs will get a claim for damages for being complicit in any ban we serve!

Was thinking the same but surely these clubs wont put themselves in a position were we might sue the arses of them ? Not sure if we could sue them for trying to influence CAS

 

[M18CTID]

I suspect this letter is made up bollocks. The ban will likely be suspended regardless of us asking for a suspension or others demanding it is imposed purely as part of due legal process while appeals are heard.

It seems odd on the face of it. You'd think someone at least one of those clubs would say something along the lines of "We won't get anywhere with this and if it gets out, we could end up on the receiving end of legal action from City for interfering in the appeal process which in turn could cost us a fortune and potentially cripple us"

 

[Mancini Manus Domini]

Relaxed ffp? Does that mean we could in theory go and buy Mane, Salah and vvd at prices Liverpool just couldn’t refuse. How funny would that be

I wouldn't want to give them large sums like they got for Coutinho, it may help them out of a financial hole.

I hope City go after top young players at none cartel clubs. Like Haaland at Dortmund. If you give big money to Dortmund then Bayern will suddenly have much more competition.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Yes it is something I have wondered for a while now. It's true teams play for professional pride but last season in particular I noticed a different approach from certain teams to ourselves and Liverpool. Burnley were a prime example. They went to Anfield and instead of their usual 11 men behind the ball approach they played an alien more expansive game, with the odd cock up thrown in. Contrast that to when they played us at their place when it was again 11 men behind the ball and superhuman efforts from every player. Wankers.

Add to that keepers having stinkers, players missing sitters/ducking out if the way & that's before we start on media, Pigmol & VAR.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I read it the other way around. It's City's appeal that is in effect suspended so we are out of Europe now unless we do something.

I can't see anyone with a lawyer in tow would take a suspension of an appeal as though the appeal hadn't been lodged. If we are excluded from the CL for next season because the appeal was put on the back burner, and then CAS get round to it before too long and find in our favour then the canutes at Uefa will not only have shot off both feet but both kneecaps and an elbow!

I wonder how FFP would address the issue of clubs, owned by the wealthy and not raising too much income whilst the game is suspended, having 'income' inflated by a lusty and generous 'investment' by said owner. Surely it would be better for these clubs to survive, one way or the other, than go under 'cos FFP rules exclude 'investment'! I wonder if Uefa would suspend their FFP regs in such 'exceptional times'?

 

[Marvin]

I can't see anyone with a lawyer in tow would take a suspension of an appeal as though the appeal hadn't been lodged. If we are excluded from the CL for next season because the appeal was put on the back burner, and then CAS get round to it before too long and find in our favour then the canutes at Uefa will not only have shot off both feet but both kneecaps and an elbow!

I wonder how FFP would address the issue of clubs, owned by the wealthy and not raising too much income whilst the game is suspended, having 'income' inflated by a lusty and generous 'investment' by said owner. Surely it would be better for these clubs to survive, one way or the other, than go under 'cos FFP rules exclude 'investment'! I wonder if Uefa would suspend their FFP regs in such 'exceptional times'?

Inpenetrable. Not even going to try.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

I suspect this letter is made up bollocks. The ban will likely be suspended regardless of us asking for a suspension or others demanding it is imposed purely as part of due legal process while appeals are heard.

Have any of the named clubs refuted their involvement or said the story is untrue?

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Is this the daily mail making things up as the only things they can report on in sport is postponing events and when sport may start up again? Could you imagine political leaders in Scotland telling a court to hurry up and get the trial of Alex Salmond concluded as quickly as possible as it’s in our interest.

If it is true it stinks to high heaven that the top half of the premier league are more interested in City than the current crisis that is going on in the world. A lack of income for a long period of time should hopefully see these clubs suffer badly.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Have any of the named clubs refuted their involvement or said the story is untrue?

Just look at the the state of the other football 'news' at present. Mostly made up bollocks to fill column inches about ole/klopp being a genius, players wanting to join dippers / rags, or other badge kissing bollocks.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Just look at the the state of the other football 'news' at present. Mostly made up bollocks to fill column inches about ole/klopp being a genius, players wanting to join dippers / rags, or other badge kissing bollocks.

This is much more serious and I believe the Yorkshire Post and the local Sheffield paper have both written articles on why the blades didn't join in the communal back stabbing. I'm also pretty sure Martin Samuel wouldn't have written that article condemning the actions of the named eight clubs unless he was sure he was in solid ground.

 

[WRicko]

I thought in normal times for ban to be suspended the club that was banned had to ask for a suspension of the ban So would we be able to sue if we do not ask for a suspension especially given the exceptional circumstances where its hard for CAS to do there job

 

[its grim up north]

We seem to be at loggerheads, on here, wether we submitted a request to have the ban suspended or not. These eight clubs, allegedly, have put a letter together to try and stop our ban being suspended. Do you think they have had inside info that we, City, have actually lodged a request or are they just guessing.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

We seem to be at loggerheads, on here, wether we submitted a request to have the ban suspended or not. These eight clubs, allegedly, have put a letter together to try and stop our ban being suspended. Do you think they have had inside info that we, City, have actually lodged a request or are they just guessing.

It's all very sinister and whatever we've done or not done it's just not right.

 

[King KdB of Belgium]

its grim up north. My guess is that they are going off what he papers have said or rumours they have heard from their own fans. Therefore they are going to try every dirty trick in the book, as long as they keep it legal there will be nothing we can do. By this I mean issuing rumours and such like. If they keep on spreading false rumours and say it often enough they will be getting some people to believe them.

So has the time now come to start to take these people/clubs to court. Then take them for every penny they have got. We have got to stop being a Mr nice guy otherwise they will continue to do this. Once we have taken 1 person or an organisation to court for either libel or slander. Maybe then all of this will stop. We all know what the real reason is behind all of this, that is that it was not their club that was taken over and it is just sheer jealousy why they are doing all of this.

 

[Kenward Garg]

And Adebayor was slaughtered by the British media. It was like a feeding frenzy. And yet no one in the media published a single line about the racist abuse he suffered from the Arsenal fans that day, which was the worse I have ever seen at a game since I started watching City in 1968. He has only spoken about it in recent years and says it was the worst abuse he ever suffered as a player. I thought his celebration was one of the best moments I can recall at a live game. I loved it.

 

[SilverFox2]

Yes, but have they got the balls to do it, or will they 'play the white man' again?

The world is full of people who mistake politeness, quietness and respecting legal advice as weakness.
The fact that we are partly owned by Chinese and American Companies seems to have escaped their tiny minds.