COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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We need ventilators NOW. Our country has 8,000, with plans for another 8,000 next week. It's not enough.
 
i8rags said:
Or every household except the 1.5 million gets one, included with a nice little sprinkle of covid, herd immunity sorted.
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That's what i was thinking. The postman becomes the super spreader...
(especially if Boris has signed and lip sealed each envelope!)
 
i8rags said:
Or every household except the 1.5 million gets one, included with a nice little sprinkle of covid, herd immunity sorted.
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The letter should say on the outside "Leave this on the mat for 24 hours" or "wash your hands after opening"...
 
I work for Arriva North East. About 2 weeks ago they offered the NHS 90 drivers to help with deliveries & patient transport. Also, offered them the use of mini buses. NHS said no need as had more than enough to cope.
 
Blue Hefner said:
The sister-in-laws' dad works at a factory which has juts been commissioned to make 13'000
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That's reassuring. I'm not sure why this isn't covered more clearly in the press. My concern is that we are going to face a serious crunch in the next two weeks. It's one thing for the Govt to say ICU capacity has not been reached in London but that doesn't mean we have ventilators for the patients. It's a horrifying thought and I hope someone gets to the bottom of it in today's briefing.

I'm also begging people, if you can, think about stopping smoking. It makes a huge difference to your body's ability to fight respiritory diseases. Ex-smokers' bodies regain the ability to fight lung and throat infection very rapidly.

I woke up last night realising my young neice could easily be left without her mother (50+), and had to consider what that meant for me. I already know I likely won't see my mother before she dies in the nursing home. Millions of people will be in similair situations. Lockdown for three months is going to be hard as hell, people are struggling to get prescriptions, the loo roll situation has not improved, home delivery of groceries is still over a month away for me. It's time the Govt stepped up with concrete plans, surely some of these things are solvable. I think Boris's letter is a nice gesture, but seriously, it doesn't address anything apart from accept what so many of us knew apparently before he did, that things were going to get worse.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I agree about the WHO. As to whether China's numbers are reliable, who knows. But they would have to be out by a factor of more than 10x - not just a bit out - for them to have not fared better than the rest of the planet.
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In 2003 Beijing eventually admitted that the numbers of infections and deaths were 10 times more than they admitted, that was after huge international pressure and being called out by the WHO who also suggested their numbers were a minimum of x10 out to what they were reporting.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2003/apr/21/china.sars

It was ground zero - the rest as you correctly like to say is common sense on the numbers.
 
one thing that has been noticeable is a and e departments are fairly quiet and being used as they should be.also I do on call repairing stairlifts and get battered with stuff that isn't an emergency and could wait till the working day.but since all this started its gone very quiet and people are only ringing when they should,lets hope this resets the way people treat these services and they'll find they get a better service.
 
Marvin said:
I don't agree. If you can quickly identify who is infected you can take them out of the transmission chain. That is the focus of every approach whether it's testing that takes 48 hours or a mass lockdown to break transmission.

The antibody test will be helpful but it wont be transformative in how we stop the infection. It will help those who have already have had illness to return to normality, and help understanding of the virus. However, it wont make much impact on the immediate problem of rapidly expanding clusters. Rapid testing of the virus could do that. If it's possible?
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I’d welcome any tests at this point but agree that testing to quickly identify who is infected seems to be key. There is a correlation between the amount of testing and fatalities ie the more tests you do the fewer the number of deaths. Germany, Austria, S Korea, Norway are focusing on testing. Singapore has testing and systems that track infections per street.

This may just be an indicator rather than a direct cause in that availability of testing or number of masks are just indicators of how well prepared these countries systems are to deal with something like this and this overall level of preparedness is the real key to combating the problem.
 
SiMCFC said:
I don't want to jump on this as it's been pointed out already and don't want it to feel like an ambush, your point would be correct IF China have told the truth, however everything is pointing in the direction that they haven't and still aren't, much like Iran and Russia I would imagine, both of which don't seem to mind getting rid of mass amounts of bodies when it suits them!
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Spot on - I’m waiting for North Korean numbers to be quoted on here soon
 
SWP's back said:
An antibody test is 1000x more useful though and we’ve got 3.5m of them coming in the next few days.
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I thought they still had major specifity problems due to the other Coronavirus being picked up and providing false positives - been resolved? Never known an antibody test to come out at these speeds for those very problems but fully understand why.
 
The BBC leading with a story about how much the coronavirus affects women.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51705199

Whereas the true story is that the coronavirus death rates are 71% men and 29% women. They just can't stop hammering usless points home to push their warped narrative.
 
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