UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[asahartford1]

There will be no Champions league or Europa league next season.
When are people going to wake up to the fact that thousands are dying and that the world will be a different place, if and when we ever get to any normality
Overseas travel will be curtailed throughout the world for many months, countries will not allow visitors from any country that has not been cleared of the epidemic
Normality will not be resumed until a vaccine has been found and everyone has been inoculated

Not strictly true.

 

[asahartford1]

Manchester City believe Arsenal are behind the plot to have their European ban upheld if the COVID-19 crisis prevents an appeal. Arsenal will inform Manchester City that their information is false if the Etihad club contact them directly about the matter

City officials have information from trusted sources that the move was instigated by Arsenal – and are angry that Liverpool joined Man United, Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves and Burnley in an attempt to pressure CAS. Arsenal refused to comment on the suggestion

@MirrorFootball

Probably john cross so might not be true

And Raheem Sterling is off to Arsenal

 

[Fred_Quimby]

And Raheem Sterling is off to Arsenal

and Real, LiVARpool etc

 

[crazyg]

I was the pianist.

You are Alexis Sanchez and I claim my £5.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Well apart from getting beat at Wembley by Wigan.
Interesting bit of news that you may not be aware off, but Dave Whelan broke his leg in an FA Cup Final.Not a lot of people know about that.

Pity the old bastard didn't break his vocal chords - he wouldn't have been able to tell us so frequently. Thank the Lord Twitter and the Devil's social media weren't available when he suffered the snap!

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

And Raheem Sterling is off to Arsenal

Eeh, I thought he was back down the East Lancs.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

It's deemed fair by the European Commission, but they're just the EU version of our Civil Service. The EU Commission backed UEFA over Bosman, but when the case was appealed all the way to the European Court of Justice, the ECJ found in favour of Bosman.

Essentially, the ECJ told the European Commission, EU Law had nothing to do with them, & to stay out of it. Whether the UK is in Europe or not, we're about to find out that dealing with Europe has to be on their terms, otherwise we can feel free to create a UK Champions League of our own, with Bangor City, & Queen of the South et al.

The UK's realationship with the EU has nothing at all to do with this matter. TfEU was in no way a European imposition but is rather a statement of commercial law as it existed in western European capitalist, free market economies at the time. Ever since 1945 at least every free economy in Europe has seen investment and competition as the only way to reconstruction and prosperity. British airlines were fined massively for acting as a cartel to force Freddy Laker out of business in the 1960s and attempts to prevent investment have always been illegal. TfEU simply stated clearly and unambiguously that these anti competitive practices were, as they had been for many years, unlawful throughout the EU, including those new members from the old Soviet bloc. The ECJ will be no more sympathetic to UEFA and the cartel than our courts, or vice versa after this year.

 

[Grassland Blue]

The UK's realationship with the EU has nothing at all to do with this matter. TfEU was in no way a European imposition but is rather a statement of commercial law as it existed in western European capitalist, free market economies at the time. Ever since 1945 at least every free economy in Europe has seen investment and competition as the only way to reconstruction and prosperity. British airlines were fined massively for acting as a cartel to force Freddy Laker out of business in the 1960s and attempts to prevent investment have always been illegal. TfEU simply stated clearly and unambiguously that these anti competitive practices were, as they had been for many years, unlawful throughout the EU, including those new members from the old Soviet bloc. The ECJ will be no more sympathetic to UEFA and the cartel than our courts, or vice versa after this year.

It boils down to the simple fact that we can buy top drawer players, which we couldn't previously do.
The cartel are angry that they have real competition now for those players and feel that they alone are entitled to buy them.

 

[Gazza]

It boils down to the simple fact that we can buy top drawer players, which we couldn't previously do.
The cartel are angry that they have real competition now for those players and feel that they alone are entitled to buy them.

Remember when Real Madrid were in the galactico stage? No-one seemed to give a fuck about ruining football at that time.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

It boils down to the simple fact that we can buy top drawer players, which we couldn't previously do.
The cartel are angry that they have real competition now for those players and feel that they alone are entitled to buy them.

Ii is not just us. They want to stop others following our example.

 

[Gazza]

Ii is not just us. They want to stop others following our example.

Every extra applicant for the top table means one less place for them.

 

[KS55]

Every extra applicant for the top table means one less place for them.

In the early days of the PL, Arsenal, Unitoad, and Iverpool could almost guarantee a place in thr CL. Then along come Chelsea then us and two of them regularly miss out. That cannot be allowed, oh no.

 

[give it to gordon]

I don't understand why UEFA are going to relax FFP. I thought the point of FFP was that all these clubs that work within the guidelines are in a strong financial position to ride out this sort of problem. How can it be legal that UEFA move the goal posts every couple of weeks to suit some of their mates, I mean clubs ?!!

 

[casserole of nonsense]

Eeh, I thought he was back down the East Lancs.

They do need to replace Jordan Ibe.

 

[KS55]

They do need to replace Jordan Ibe.

But why target an inferior player like Sterling?

 

[casserole of nonsense]

But why target an inferior player like Sterling?

Difficult to replace the irreplaceable.

 

[Norbert D]

I don't understand why UEFA are going to relax FFP. I thought the point of FFP was that all these clubs that work within the guidelines are in a strong financial position to ride out this sort of problem. How can it be legal that UEFA move the goal posts every couple of weeks to suit some of their mates, I mean clubs ?!!

when you look at the facts, FFP was dreamt up by disgraced Platini aided by disgraced Blatter. Clubs falling into unmanageable debt likes Leeds and Portsmouth and Rangers and Luton etc was the whole premise, however that was bullshit, this was invented to stop City and PSG but PSG then bunged uefa enough for them to sneak over the line. The goal posts have moved and FFP relaxed because the strength of the Premier League meant a pisspot club like Burnley are pulling in more money than ACMilan, BUT they still want to fuck City come what may. This whole hacked Der Spiegel shite wouldn’t hold water in a court of law and it should not have been treated like gospel by UEFA, but c*nts like Gill are beavering away doing their shady deals. This season will never complete and I suspect next seasons curtailed. City will probably stand firm and if UEFA try and throw City out before a CAS ruling they will open themselves to a massive legal battle that they just won’t want.

 

[mat]

Anyone thinking the Mullock article on certain teams match fixing is a shot over the bows for the same clubs from us?

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Anyone thinking the Mullock article on certain teams match fixing is a shot over the bows for the same clubs from us?

Certainly hope we are at the back of it. Time to give the cnuts some of it back.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

when you look at the facts, FFP was dreamt up by disgraced Platini aided by disgraced Blatter. Clubs falling into unmanageable debt likes Leeds and Portsmouth and Rangers and Luton etc was the whole premise, however that was bullshit, this was invented to stop City and PSG but PSG then bunged uefa enough for them to sneak over the line. The goal posts have moved and FFP relaxed because the strength of the Premier League meant a pisspot club like Burnley are pulling in more money than ACMilan, BUT they still want to fuck City come what may. This whole hacked Der Spiegel shite wouldn’t hold water in a court of law and it should not have been treated like gospel by UEFA, but c*nts like Gill are beavering away doing their shady deals. This season will never complete and I suspect next seasons curtailed. City will probably stand firm and if UEFA try and throw City out before a CAS ruling they will open themselves to a massive legal battle that they just won’t want.

I wouldn’t for one second defend the spineless Platini, but he did, pre ffp as we know it, show a good deal of concern about club debts. In fact he even went as far as to label certain clubs ‘cheats’ for playing in European competition whilst running huge debts. He named 2 clubs in England as examples- one from London and one quite close to us geographically!
To me, nothing illustrates the dead hand of gill and his gang behind the scenes better, than the almost polar opposite version of ffp that we see now, compared to the one that the testicularly challenged Platini had sought.
But he got his big fat cheque eventually so everything’s fine in uefa land.