COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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AlgarveBlu said:
From the WHO

Verified account @WHO Jan 14




Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China
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I'm not sure what's different about that to what I said? That just shows they informed the WHO before they confirmed H2H transmission, like I said.
 
SWP's back said:
But we discussed why Trump pivoting to use the term Chinese Virus after he’d been using its official designation was certainly dog whistle. As I say, even he has given up on that for now.

Not all diseases have a geographic locator. SARS didn’t. Swine Flu didn’t. AIDS didn’t.
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He is calling it ‘the Chinese virus’ for a number of reasons:

1. The Chinese foreign minister stated that the virus was American in origin and released in Wohan by American military personnel prior to him using the phrase ‘Chinese virus’.

2. Most western governments are very suspicious (to say the least) of the Chinese infection figures and have sound intelligence that what is being declared is only the tip of the iceberg.

3. China is infuriating the USA, UK and EU with the way it is profiteering from the fall out, and how it is using aid to some countries to create political leverage in some areas of the globe.

Let’s just say that the decision to use Chinese technology in our own 5G networks is being reversed, and China will not be finding the UK or USA such a happy hunting ground commercially, this will change the commercial world, manufacturing reliance will also shift back from China to a certain extent too for sensitive sectors.

China have really rocked the boat with this - and it wasn’t exactly stable as it was ! His reaction is stupid, low brow, but it is a reaction and aimed squarely at China and a message to his supporters.
 
SWP's back said:
The guidelines I quote were updated 21/10/2019 so they’re probably current.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/racist-and-religious-hate-crime-prosecution-guidance
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I'm sure they are but my point is that the law doesn't always capture what most people would consider to be the true meaning of the word.

If you forced your wife to have sex with you before 1995, I'd hope most people would say that was rape but the law didn't. Likewise, the law might say that a derogatory reference to a person's nationality or religion is racist but I'm sure a lot of people would disagree and argue that racism is based purely on race.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
FFS lets hope this isn't around for 300 years!!!!

In this case of course the term Black was used because it's the colour the dead flesh of the victims turned regardless of their race, creed, religion or ethnicity.
But yeah, thanks for reminding us of it ;-)
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I thought it was because the end of their digits turned black while they were still alive - and it wasn’t described as the Black Death contemporaneously. It think it wasn’t until the 18th century that it was given that title.
 
meltonblue said:
I'm not sure what's different about that to what I said? That just shows they informed the WHO before they confirmed H2H transmission, like I said.
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But the point is they covered this up for around a month (if you want to be kind to them) , there were smoking guns everywhere on transmission mode - a month of doing nothing is a phenomenally long time in terms of a virus with cobid's transmission rate; it was a systematic shutdown of information from the party's central office originating from the regional governor - i'm confused as to why you can't see this has had a major impact as to why we are where we are with this pandemic.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
FFS lets hope this isn't around for 300 years!!!!

In this case of course the term Black was used because it's the colour the dead flesh of the victims turned regardless of their race, creed, religion or ethnicity.
But yeah, thanks for reminding us of it ;-)
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I thought it was carried by black rats, that's where the name was derived from.
 
meltonblue said:
if you had it at Christmas then we’d have had the numbers we have now in ICU at Christmas too.
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what i really think is the cornavirus first stage was out last year and its what everybody had a christmas. and this is a new mutation the 2nd phase they call it and the antibiotics and steroids will not work on it because of the first stage mutation
 
ancoats said:
what i really think is the cornavirus first stage was out last year and its what everybody had a christmas. and this is a new mutation the 2nd phase they call it and the antibiotics and steroids will not work on it because of the first stage mutation
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What on earth makes you think this? It's wild speculation with no evidence to support it.
 
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