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Ardwick Green Blue said:
It will be interesting to see how Sweden fares compared to the UK as things progress. They seem to be going for hardly any mitigation but the herd immunity approach. If they are right the economic damage will be far less but if they are wrong then they will be seeing huge numbers of deaths.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...e-sweden-coronavirus-stoicism-lockdown-europe
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On paper, but Stockholm is like a ghost town. Today they have basicaly said if you are in Stockholm you have to stay in Stockholm. It's unofficial but people are taking advice as law, which seems different to what is being reported in the UK. Where I am working we are having out temperature measured every morning. If it' over 37.5 they don't let you in. The big test will be Easter weekend.

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Gelsons Dad said:
if those figures are correct then the infection mortality rate is 0.077.
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Which is of course amazing. Makes you wonder why there's such a rise in critical cases in some areas though? Doesnt seem to tally. Why are some regions of the UK full of people more susceptible to severe illnesses? Why are some more susceptible than others in general? These are just normal people after all.
 
SWP's back said:
Do you often post thinking you’re wrong?
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If it’s an opinion of course. What I try not to do is correct peoples opinion.
You however are very correct in most of your posts and generally correct the bullshit twitter reading crew. Or bollocks chatting no research type. I find it funny how once you start you can’t stop, if you wanted my consent, which I doubt, I’d say carry on.
 
marco said:
a massive increase of dumped animals on the streets of the UK, if your able to home a dog even if its just short term contact RSPCA
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people seem to think they can catch it from pets and probably that they can't be bothered to amuse them when they can only go on one walk a day,at least give them to a shelter or someone you know on there own and could do with the company

latest info on pets

Can dogs and cats catch coronavirus?
There is no evidence dogs and cats can be affected by coronavirus.
However, the current thinking in the vet profession is that they can potentially carry COVID-19 but are not infectious.
They cannot transmit the virus and will have no symptoms but the virus could be on them.
So, if you had COVID-19 and sneezed on your dog then someone else patted your dog, they could potentially pick it up.
We're not sure how long it can last on an organic surface such as hair but it will be less than a hard surface.
So, the advice is to not touch other people's dogs - it's really hard but you have to be vigilant
But it is a challenge, their social life will be impacted, as ours is - and those of us with pets are feeling quite grateful we have them in our lives.
Going for a run with your dog for your daily exercise, or a long walk, is a good idea.
But mental stimulation can be just as tiring. Kids are often knackered when they return from school because they're using their brain so much - that's the same with dogs
You can give them some basic training, teach them new tricks, give them some environmental stimulation and play games.
There are games where they are rewarded by hidden food, you can buy some interactive dog games online as well.

Ha good luck with this bit if you have a cat
With both dogs and cats you should bath them and possibly wipe them down with anti-bacterial wipes when they come back in.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-dogs-and-cats-happy-during-lockdown-11965891
 
Gelsons Dad said:
Big picture Karen. If there were a significant number of un attributed deaths they would show up in the total death figures.
Despite the 24/7 gloom it would appear that fewer people are dying this year than the average of the last 5 years in the same period. Fretting about who is or isn't counted in each column is pointless when the end result is an overall lowering of death rate. We should be fucking cheering.
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Two things.

1. I cannot imagine there is an NHS worker In the entire country who is cheering. The idea if we get through this with anything like a normal years respiratory related deaths, it could be anything other than a horrific nightmare, is just daft. We don't build massive temporary hospitals for regular flu, do we.

2. This is nowhere near over. We have another winter to get through yet.
 
Ardwick Green Blue said:
It will be interesting to see how Sweden fares compared to the UK as things progress. They seem to be going for hardly any mitigation but the herd immunity approach. If they are right the economic damage will be far less but if they are wrong then they will be seeing huge numbers of deaths.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...e-sweden-coronavirus-stoicism-lockdown-europe
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The local economy may stay in half decent shape but overall their economy will still be fucked. The world's economy is fucked so that'll affect every country in the world.
 
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twosips said:
Which is of course amazing. Makes you wonder why there's such a rise in critical cases in some areas though? Doesnt seem to tally. Why are some regions of the UK full of people more susceptible to severe illnesses? Why are some more susceptible than others in general? These are just normal people after all.
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Based on a study published not too long ago that could have something to do with viral load and people's initial infections coming from a lot higher doses. Which could happen if you have a lot more people walking around with it unbeknownst.
 
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blueish swede said:
On paper, but Stockholm is like a ghost town. Today they have basicaly said if you are in Stockholm you have to stay in Stockholm. It's unofficial but people are taking advice as law, which seems different to what is being reported in the UK. Where I am working we are having out temperature measured every morning. If it' over 37.5 they don't let you in. The big test will be Easter weekend.

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I’ll have the 2 for 1 please....
 
i8rags said:
If it’s an opinion of course. What I try not to do is correct peoples opinion.
You however are very correct in most of your posts and generally correct the bullshit twitter reading crew. Or bollocks chatting no research type. I find it funny how once you start you can’t stop, if you wanted my consent, which I doubt, I’d say carry on.
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I was trying to be lighthearted rather than having a go, apologies if it didn’t come across that way. But cheers :-)
 
MCFC1993 said:
Based on a study published not too long ago that could have something to do with viral load and people's initial infections coming from a lot higher doses. Which could happen if you have a lot more people walking around with it unbeknownst, a lot like Lombardy/Bergamo.
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so say a doctor could be loaded with massive doses in a short period versus someone touching a door handle and then touching the face,makes sense that if you get an intial small dose then the immune system can get to work and not be over powered at the start of the infection,,i'd go with this all day long
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
So their estimation is that between 814,632-3,665,844 people have had it.

With between 0.038-0.17% of them dying of it so far.
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Which when you look at it like that, it looks a lot better.

Though the big issue with that is that there is a lag between the infections and deaths.

So if it's true then we're in for a really tough month.
 
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