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So their estimation is that between 814,632-3,665,844 people have had it.

With between 0.038-0.17% of them dying of it so far.
Hmmm. So it’s somewhere between half as deadly and twice as deadly as flu?

That makes me doubt their findings as committing economic (maybe not suicide but certainly an O.D. attempt) would make no sense for such an epidemic.
 
so say a doctor could be loaded with massive doses in a short period versus someone touching a door handle and then touching the face,makes sense that if you get an intial small dose then the immune system can get to work and not be over powered at the start of the infection,,i'd go with this all day long
That how vaccines work isn’t it ?
 
Compared to the UK Germany continues to have identified three times more cases and at the same time continues to have only a third of the deaths. The implication is that through extensive early tracking they have protected vulnerable groups much better and/or provided much better medical care for them.
This invites the question why and also why is nobody asking it at the PCs?
 
"Summonsed" when the law provides only for fixed penalty notices. Stopped for having more than one person from a household in a car together - "summonsed" for going out to buy "non-essential" items. Non-essential isn't defined.

All that will happen is a bored plod with fill an overstretched court system with cases that get dismissed. I am always amazed at the number of Police you see recorded displaying they don't know the fucking laws they think they are enforcing

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-driving-due-to-boredom-and-shoppers-11965903
 
so say a doctor could be loaded with massive doses in a short period versus someone touching a door handle and then touching the face,makes sense that if you get an intial small dose then the immune system can get to work and not be over powered at the start of the infection,,i'd go with this all day long

That's been one of the theories, I can't find the study at the moment to clarify what was said exactly. Some doctors and scientists have hypothesised that and given how low the infectious dose probably is, it's not that hard to jump to this conclusion.

It could obviously be a lot more complex than that given this virus seems a lot more complex.

I'm sure we'll find out the make up of the virus soon enough, hopefully really soon.
 
"Summonsed" when the law provides only for fixed penalty notices. Stopped for having more than one person from a household in a car together - "summonsed" for going out to buy "non-essential" items. Non-essential isn't defined.

All that will happen is a bored plod with fill an overstretched court system with cases that get dismissed. I am always amazed at the number of Police you see recorded displaying they don't know the fucking laws they think they are enforcing

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-driving-due-to-boredom-and-shoppers-11965903
I am always amazed at the number of Police you see recorded displaying they don't know the fucking laws they think they are enforcing

The American ones on youtube are the best mate if you need entertaining, they have the first amendment audits and go out filming the power plants,military bases etc,,talk about twitchy copers who dont have a clue,some of those clips are brilliant
 
Based on a study published not too long ago that could have something to do with viral load and people's initial infections coming from a lot higher doses. Which could happen if you have a lot more people walking around with it unbeknownst, a lot like Lombardy/Bergamo.

There have been some articles that suggest this isn't the case.

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...-load-or-infectious-dose-make-covid-19-worse/

"For instance, health workers investigating the covid-19 outbreak in the Lombardy region of Italy looked at more than 5,000 infected people and found no difference in viral load between those with symptoms and those without. They reached this conclusion after tracing people who had been in contact with someone known to be infected with the coronavirus and testing them to see if they were also infected."
 
never thought of it like that but yes its right,,may chuck some light on this herd immunity providing we all got small doses then we would build resistance up
Edward Jenner created the 1st vaccine for smallpox which had killed millions of people down the centuries, he noticed that milkmaids who had had cowpox , a milder disease, never got smallpox .He took the puss from a sore on a milkmaids arm and pierced it under the skin of a boy then months later gave him the smallpox virus , he never developed it . The answer is out there
 
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That's been one of the theories, I can't find the study at the moment to clarify what was said exactly. Some doctors and scientists have hypothesised that and given how low the infectious dose probably is, it's not that hard to jump to this conclusion.

It could obviously be a lot more complex than that given this virus seems a lot more complex.

I'm sure we'll find out the make up of the virus soon enough, hopefully really soon.
we will mate,but im shocked today that there at it again in china with the wet markets,to me this was a warning 'if we get away with it' the next one could be deadly
 
You may be sick of it Vic but I can assure you, you’d get over it quicker if you actually read the facts.

This isn’t about China “not knowing”, of course they knew, hell Taiwan knew and were ignored by the WHO.

What did Taiwan know, and when did they know it?
 
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if those figures are correct then the infection mortality rate is 0.077.
Sounds like another of those "no correlation between genius and common sense" type papers then, doesn't it? I would be staggered if this is true. That's lower than normal flu.
 
If you want you can fly to Madrid from London tomorrow, or Indeed in reverse.

What the fuck is that all about.
 
There have been some articles that suggest this isn't the case.

https://www.newscientist.com/articl...-load-or-infectious-dose-make-covid-19-worse/

"For instance, health workers investigating the covid-19 outbreak in the Lombardy region of Italy looked at more than 5,000 infected people and found no difference in viral load between those with symptoms and those without. They reached this conclusion after tracing people who had been in contact with someone known to be infected with the coronavirus and testing them to see if they were also infected."

Ah right the information I'd seen was from a well ago, so not as recent. Although viral load could affect each person differently, maybe there is a perfect amount for each individual person etc...a lot like alcohol tolerance but I'm just theorising there. I did just reply to Marco though saying it could obviously be a lot more complex than that.

I'm sure the reality is that there are numerous reasons that could affect it.

I'd be interested to see studies that look at the environmental factors, whether this virus thrives under a certain temperature or humidity. Whether Northern Italy has the perfect conditions for it etc...
 
"Summonsed" when the law provides only for fixed penalty notices. Stopped for having more than one person from a household in a car together - "summonsed" for going out to buy "non-essential" items. Non-essential isn't defined.

All that will happen is a bored plod with fill an overstretched court system with cases that get dismissed. I am always amazed at the number of Police you see recorded displaying they don't know the fucking laws they think they are enforcing

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-driving-due-to-boredom-and-shoppers-11965903

think of the opportunities though for plod.

Catholic plod gets shops to remove all condoms
Vegan plod removes all meats
Muslim plod gets all non halal food removed
Fat plod gets all sweets removed
Recovering alcky plod gets all booze removed

outlandish?

not anymore than actions already recorded
 
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