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Gelsons Dad said:
wow. Karen get over yourself
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https://www.nationalreview.com/news...oronavirus-test-kits-to-spain-czech-republic/

27/03/2020 · SPAIN has bought 640,000 faulty coroanvirus testing kits from China. The Spanish government purchased the kits from the firm Shenzhen Bioeasy Biotechnology for mass testing to discover the true


Reuters reported Friday that New York health officials had sought to get their own coronavirus testing kits up and running after getting stuck with faulty tests from the federal government that they said left them unable to diagnose people quickly in the nation’s most populous city

HHS confirmed Sunday it had “launched an investigation and is assembling a team of non-CDC scientists to better understand the nature and source of the manufacturing defect in the first batch of COVID-19 test kits that were distributed to state health departments and others.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-test-kits-idUSKBN20P09Y

They need to be careful,as for trump,he is prone to exaggerating
 
meltonblue said:
They weren’t, the Spanish and Dutch bought them off unlicensed manufacturers that weren’t on the approved list.

The government themselves and what they are doing are absolutely on a pr mission and I’m sure it’s not by any stretch entirely altruistic. If it saves lives, right now I don’t care though.
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Nor do I, as long as they tell the truth.
 
@Vic

I know you didn’t read my Tweets I shared so here’s part of one that had an article from the Financial Times

Taiwan has accused the World Health Organization of failing to communicate an early warning about transmission of the coronavirus between humans, slowing the global response to the pandemic.

Health officials in Taipei said they alerted the WHO at the end of December about the risk of human-to-human transmission of the new virus but said its concerns were not passed on to other countries.

Taiwan is excluded from the WHO because China, which claims it as part of its territory, demands that third countries and international bodies do not treat it in any way that resembles how independent states are treated.
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Shaelumstash said:
A sensible post, and of course it’s perfectly reasonable to question the actions of the Chinese government. There’s nothing remotely racist about that.

But the posters saying Chinese people are “dirty bastards” and “THEY should pay for what they’ve done” and threatening a boycott of anything related to China, well, I’m afraid, they are racist and should be called out as such.
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Can’t argue with the fact that those types of comments are definitely racist in tone and also unhelpful.

A boycott isn’t going to help anyone but some pressure needs to be brought to bear on China following this, both in terms of carrot and stick, if we are to ensure this issue is tackled moving forward.
 
Ban-jani said:
Very good post and articulated well.

I would just disagree on the massaging figures point, it’s been leaked that No.10 think they’re true deaths are 50,000+, someone said as many as 15 times what they’ve published.

If true, or even slightly near to the truth, that not only means they’re totally hiding the truth, it means there’s tens of thousands of people having the indignity of having their death/reason of death, manipulated and hidden.
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Disagreeing with the massaging of the figures is fine, disagreeing it on the basis of a number 10 leak is likely to be agreeing with massaged figures in itself though ;)

I wouldn’t be surprised if their death toll was similar to what Italy’s is right now. You have to bear in mind when they enforce a lockdown, that means a lot more than when western countries do it!
 
meltonblue said:
Disagreeing with the massaging of the figures is fine, disagreeing it on the basis of a number 10 leak is likely to be agreeing with massaged figures in itself though ;)

I wouldn’t be surprised if their death toll was similar to what Italy’s is right now. You have to bear in mind when they enforce a lockdown, that means a lot more than when western countries do it!
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That’s why I said even slightly true. The leak thinks up to 15 times. Even if it’s a third of that it’s total horror.

I don’t know, they put this off for as long as they could and enforced the lockdown when it became impossible to contain. I think tens of thousands will have had it at that point.

There’s also been images of each special Coronavirus mortuary having thousands of urns delivered, well over the number that is published.

Again, this is a flimsy inside source, from China but it’s still a claim.

One’s thing for sure, they sure as hell didn’t suddenly fix it and the riots in Hubei show this.
 
Vic said:
What did Taiwan know, and when did they know it?

Any reply other than evidence is clearly wumming.
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They knew China would lie and were not prepared to take the chance. They were right!
After SARS they instituted a plan to fight the next Chinese virus. It has worked. It even also looks like they are beating the infections that have subsequently come from Europe and the US. Appropriate Articles:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/16/taiwan-china-fear-coronavirus-success/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...navirus-despite-diplomatic-isolation-by-china
https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/soc...aiwan-repeat-its-success-controlling-covid-19

NOTE THAT TAIWAN WAS MONITORING CHINESE FLIGHT PASSENGERS FROM THE 17TH DECEMBER AS SOON AS INFORMATION LEAKED OUT FROM CHINA.
 
Ban-jani said:
That’s why I said even slightly true. The leak thinks up to 15 times. Even if it’s a third of that it’s total horror.

I don’t know, they put this off for as long as they could and enforced the lockdown when it became impossible to contain. I think tens of thousands will have had it at that point.

There’s also been images of each special Coronavirus mortuary having thousands of urns delivered, well over the number that is published.

Again, this is a flimsy inside source, from China but it’s still a claim.

One’s thing for sure, they sure as hell didn’t suddenly fix it and the riots in Hubei show this.
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They enforced the lockdown before most of the European countries did. I take the point though.
 
BlueAnorak said:
They knew China would lie and were not prepared to take the chance. They were right!
After SARS they instituted a plan to fight the next Chinese virus. It has worked. It even also looks like they are beating the infections that have subsequently come from Europe and the US. Appropriate Articles:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/16/taiwan-china-fear-coronavirus-success/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...navirus-despite-diplomatic-isolation-by-china
https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/soc...aiwan-repeat-its-success-controlling-covid-19

NOTE THAT TAIWAN WAS MONITORING CHINESE FLIGHT PASSENGERS FROM THE 17TH DECEMBER AS SOON AS INFORMATION LEAKED OUT FROM CHINA.
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Part of the problem we’ve had in the west is we haven’t had to deal with a pandemic for such a long time. Some of those countries, they’d be on high alert right from the beginning due to (recent) past experience. That’s why I’m even more frustrated by the reaction post lockdown (as in, in February). As soon as China went into total lockdown, that was the full alarm bell and yet we still all waited a month.
 
meltonblue said:
They enforced the lockdown before most of the European countries did. I take the point though.
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They did from the date it was official it was H2H. If you take it from December, when they definitely knew, they have been one of the slowest.

What’s annoyed me the most is allowing the flights to come in unchecked.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Can’t argue with the fact that those types of comments are definitely racist in tone and also unhelpful.

A boycott isn’t going to help anyone but some pressure needs to be brought to bear on China following this, both in terms of carrot and stick, if we are to ensure this issue is tackled moving forward.
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I stopped buying French wine in the mid 1980s in protest of the Moruroa Atoll Atomic bomb testing.
I had no idea I was racist.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Can’t argue with the fact that those types of comments are definitely racist in tone and also unhelpful.

A boycott isn’t going to help anyone but some pressure needs to be brought to bear on China following this, both in terms of carrot and stick, if we are to ensure this issue is tackled moving forward.
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Hopefully appropriate pressure is being discussed at a government level.

But Steve from Baguely refusing to get a Chinese takeaway meal or buy any goods manufactured in China isn’t going to apply the slightest bit of pressure on the Chinese government imo. It’s just going to scapegoat and punish entirely innocent people.
 
TCIB said:
It would be interesting, if we could, map every single jump from human to human and visualize it. That horse race meeting the other week seems more stupid by the day.
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A villa fan took it to wembley,ended up in intensive care with a collapsed lung,i wonder how many others out of the 80 odd thousand had it as well,if only we could have seen a couple of weeks ahead it would have been cancelled
 
meltonblue said:
Part of the problem we’ve had in the west is we haven’t had to deal with a pandemic for such a long time. Some of those countries, they’d be on high alert right from the beginning due to (recent) past experience. That’s why I’m even more frustrated by the reaction post lockdown (as in, in February). As soon as China went into total lockdown, that was the full alarm bell and yet we still all waited a month.
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Despite what people think of his lack of principles, Johnson is a Libertarian and enforcing the strongest authoritarian measures in the history of our country, is something I’m glad took a bit of time.

I appreciate this may sound heartless to those that have died, it’s not believe me, my mates grandad has just died from Coronavirus and I’m gutted for him, it’s just there’s wider implications to enforcing this type of things and implications that could be worse in the long run.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
I stopped buying French wine in the mid 1980s in protest of the Moruroa Atoll Atomic bomb testing.
I had no idea I was racist.
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I’m sure your boycott didn’t disadvantage the entirely innocent wine producers who may well have shared you view, but instead cut right to the heart of government and influenced all future French atomic policy. Thank you for helping to make the world a safer place.
 
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