COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Tim of the Oak]

Anyone else managed to work out the bloody nhs volunteer app? Downloaded it after getting accepted but can’t work out how it works.

no mate. I posted about this yesterday and other Bluemooners were struggling. I can’t event get through to the start up guide.

 

[johnnytapia]

I know this may come across as a stupid question but here goes

If this virus affects those with the weaker immune system so those with stronger fitter systems are able to fight it off, how come so many young doctors and nurses on the front line are dying with it? Are those on the front line getting a stronger strain? Are there more lethal strains that only those getting admitted to hospital have contracted which is then passed onto front line staff and causing death?

Just seems to me that there’s no reason for them to be dying unless the strain gets worse for want of a better phrase.

Doctors and nurses are no different to the general public: some overweight, some diabetic, some smokers. My doc is overweight, big red woine drinker, top bloke but not a paragon of fitness.

 

[johnnytapia]

It would have helped if the NHS could embrace an integrated computer system to identify its constraints.

NHS and computer systems: never the twain shall meet.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Viral load mate. They’re sadly getting such a high dose of it that it overwhelms their immune system.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-questions-about-covid-19-and-viral-load/

This.
But...
it's mainly 50+ year old medics across the world who are getting seriously ill and dying.
They rejigged the schedules a couple of weeks ago in my local hospital so older nurses and those with medical conditions were set to look after non COVID-19 patients. Indeed most of the retired medics and nurses coming back to work are back filling for younger staff to work with COVID-19 patients.
Seems so sensible, I find it difficult to believe that this is a management decision in an NHS hospital.

 

[mackenzie]

we are going to be the same, in a matter of days.

It's pretty inevitable, isn't it.
Some really bad few days coming.

 

[squirtyflower]

Think it more surfaces that's why they keep telling us to wash hands,
Someone on here was going on about it,shopping/post it can still be on these.

Indeed it stays on surface longer than in the air, but it will be in the air in a closed environment, much less so in the open, but I still believe it can travel through the air, which is why I despise joggers running past me

 

[Vic]

I think the problems is we have have to buy in everything test wise because we don't have a good diagnostic industry (who knew) then we have to test the test to see how reliable they are,spain got some from china and had to send a lot back because they were not reliable,at least now in future we will have a diagnostic industry because we are quickly building one

We did have one.

"We once, in the days of the Cold War, had a strong regional laboratory network in Britain. Called the Public Health Laboratory service, it was set up in 1946 as a response to the threat of bacteriological warfare. Unfortunately, the doctrine of “efficiency” has closed most of these labs over the last 20 years, leaving just one sizable one run by Public Health England in Colindale"

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coro...rest-of-the-world/ar-BB122eIn?ocid=spartanntp

 

[squirtyflower]

Or anything else it lands on, so don't go leaning on any railings admiring the view, or sitting on park benches, as you could pick it up and take it into your home, risks are obviously small, be careful opening mail too, make sure you wash your hands minimum before doing anything else.

Do all of that, leave the mail for a couple of days, wouldn’t touch bins after being emptied, yada yada yada, the soap is playing havoc with the skin on the back of my hands

 

[Rammy Blue]

I think we now know why the Chinese were busily welding people into their apartment blocks...

 

[bluemoon32]

He can fuck off !

Yes he can, the ****

 

[bert38]

Not sure where to ask this and can no longer find the reference but can anyone confirm Sheikh Mansour’s involvement in the ownership of the Excel centre? I know it’s owned by ADNEC but as to his exact role I’m unclear?

 

[Gabriel]

Could it be that there are no/few tests within these facilities?

In a similar vein, there is a further looming shortage, but this time of vital drugs.

"The European University Hospital Alliance said in a letter to governments. Stocks of muscle relaxants, sedatives and painkillers were likely to run out in two days at the hardest-hit hospitals and in two weeks at others..."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ng-hospitals-running-out-of-coronavirus-drugs

 

[BlueHammer85]

Easy to knock this clapping thing but personally it’s a great idea and really shows a support for those on the front line.

 

[i8rags]

Superb show of support

 

[BlueAnorak]

It would have helped if the NHS could embrace an integrated computer system to identify its constraints.

NHS and computer systems: never the twain shall meet.

So true johhytapia. I had the misfortune to work on the ONS (People stats) and GRO (births, marriages, partnerships and deaths) side of the NHS IT integration project in about 2004 - What a fucking disaster that was.
They wanted the moon on a stick and got well not a lot. This is particularly apt
https://s.amsu.ng/T9YdcEBlzNbN

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

Even if they can 100,000 a day, won't that take 20 months to test a population of 60 million ?

 

[Gabriel]

the soap is playing havoc with the skin on the back of my hands

Feels like I've spent the last few weeks preparing for a role in The Singing Detective. :-(

 

[BlueAnorak]

Superb show of support

Bloody crap near us tonight compared with last week. Still that's the middle class and rich for you.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Easy to knock this clapping thing but personally it’s a great idea and really shows a support for those on the front line.

who is knocking it , they are nobs

it achieves two things

Thanking the nhs

bringing the street together in a time of isolation.

love it should be every week until things are eased.

 

[i8rags]

Bloody crap near us tonight compared with last week. Still that's the middle class and rich for you.

You deserve a clap