COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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ganganvince said:
Do you mean BSE?
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I'm sure he does. You really don't want to know about prion diseases. Let's just say, Britons alive before 1995(ish) are banned from giving blood in the USA and many other countries, and leave it at that.


Gabriel said:
Belgium:
"Of the newly confirmed cases, 503 have been hospitalised, bringing the total to 7,773, of whom 1,245 are in intensive care, 40 in the last 24 hours. The ICU capacity in the country is filled to the tune of 56%. 985 people are on respirators, an increase of 69 in the past 24 hours."
https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-n...irus-1661-new-cases-confirmed-140-new-deaths/
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I hope the Gov start giving us this sort of information. The simple daily figures we get are horrifying but innaccurate and incomplete. Certainly when it comes to figuring out if they are providing enough Ventilators, and ICU capacity ought to help people cope with lockdown and decide if we're doing enough or might think about relaxing measures.
 
Summerbuzz said:
I hope the Gov start giving us this sort of information. The simple daily figures we get are horrifying but innaccurate and incomplete. Certainly when it comes to figuring out if they are providing enough Ventilators, and ICU capacity ought to help people cope with lockdown and decide if we're doing enough or might think about relaxing measures.
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It might be preferable if countries could standardise their results and publish uniformly. For those planning, both nationally and globally, the more accurate the information, the more they can understand the situation and plan deconfinement (like the Belgian usage :-)) accordingly.

Both sets of figures from yesterday point towards around a third of the new cases requiring hospitalisation, but whether knowing that would make the man on the Clapham omnibus more vigilant or more complacent is hard to say.
 
cleavers said:
Interesting article, wouldn't surprise me if it was like that, and even if 10% out it's still huge, only mass testing (both ways - too see if people have it, and to see if they have had it) will clear it up, whether we will ever see that who knows ?
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Germany are doing it currently. Random testing of 100,000 people with no symptoms.

It was announced last week but I think it will take them a while.


I still think it is absolutely insane that despite use hearing that basically only people needing ICU are getting tests with people everyone knows have the virus but not in life threatening condition being turned away, we're still only 22% positive from 180,000 tests.
 
Summerbuzz said:
Itchy feet. We are nowhere near peak chaos yet. Just wait until every A&E department is over-saturated 24/7. Then what happens when people start having car accidents? Thousands turning up because of going out and smashing each other up on friday night?
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I'm sure it wont come to that
 
The deaths in this care home in Glasgow are so sad. Sadly the experience of Spain and Italy is that they are slaughter houses just waiting for the virus to arrive.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I don’t know why anyone is paying any sort of attention to any daily death figures after it was shown that we are just popping previous days’ deaths on to any old days’ stats:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....-hold-in-uk-earlier-than-thought-data-reveals
“On Thursday, 561 deaths were reported, but only 84 took place in the 24 hours to 5pm on 1 April.”

All daily stats are null and void, for us at least. You can’t read anything into them.
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The guy whose post I quoted is followed by very smart people. Why? Because he is very smart himself.

Maybe he's wrong though, time will tell. I think he is right.
 
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Mayor West said:
I'm sure it wont come to that
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I would be amazed if global governments top modeling officer and behavioural scientists have not looked at multiple scenarios of civil unrest and the indirect impact of the virus on lives. The general public are discussing and commenting on issues that are being raised by the media and government at press conferences which is normal for them to steer the topics, but there will be high level discussions about matters that haven’t even be brought up on here, I hope so anyway.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
BCG was started by farmers here feeding cows to cows.

Get fucked with your racism
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That’s a very wild accusation to be making when you’ve not read my post properly.

If you want to live in a world where criticising food hygiene that’s causing diseases and criticising animal cruelty is cancelled because of racism calls, be my guest but I don’t want to.
 
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alexmcity said:
Wishful thinking.

The guy whose post I quoted is followed by very smart people. Why? Because he is very smart himself.
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He’ll think he’s right from the stats he’s seen, and he is on those stats he’s seen.

But our stats aren’t right so every graph showing UK daily stats is null because we aren’t actually reporting actual deaths per day. The difference on Thursday to deaths reported and actual deaths that day was 477 out.

So while his method is spot on, the stats are wrong.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
He’ll think he’s right from the stats he’s seen, and he is on those stats he’s seen.

But our stats aren’t right so every UK graph showing daily stats is null because we aren’t actually reporting actual deaths per day. The difference in Thursday to deaths reported and actual deaths that day was 477 out.
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Ok, mate, maybe if you count the cases on a weekly basis, the curves won't be much different. I edited my post and wrote he might be wrong. But I don't think he is.
 
alexmcity said:
Ok, mate, maybe if you count the cases on a weekly basis, the curves won't be much different. I edited my post and wrote he might be wrong. But I don't think he is.
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I get what you’re saying but we are finding out that UK deaths started as early as 28th February (much earlier than we thought) and they are being randomly attached to this week’s daily deaths reporting.

It’s so random, and because we aren’t testing in enough numbers, and because we aren’t reporting recovery stats; the one and only thing we can look at for UK stats are the accumulation of deaths total because all other stats are too unreliable.

It’s as if the Govt are purposely holding back numbers to make sure the graph shows a certain trend.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I get what you’re saying but we are finding out that UK deaths started as early as 28th February (much earlier than we thought) and they are being randomly attached to this week’s daily deaths reporting.

It’s so random, and because we aren’t testing in enough numbers, and because we aren’t reporting recovery stats; the one and only thing we can look at for UK stats are the accumulation of deaths total because all other stats are too unreliable.

It’s as if the Govt are purposely holding back numbers to make sure the graph shows a certain trend.
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That's reasonable. But if even the weekly data are seriously skewed, then we don't know anything.

Maybe the real numbers will get clearer when we are able to compare death cases from the respective months in 2019 and 2020. Many people think that cases are under reported everywhere, and not because govs want to hide the true picture but lack of testing.
 
alexmcity said:
That's reasonable. But if even the weekly data are seriously skewed, then we don't know anything.

Maybe the real numbers will get clearer when we are able to compare death cases from the respective months in 2019 and 2020. Many people think that cases are under reported everywhere, and not because govs want to hide the true picture but lack of testing.
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Yeah I think it needs to be over a longer period of time.

We also need to do more testing. We also need to report recoveries because so far from our cases with an outcome, 96.39% have died. That can’t be correct.
 
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kippax4ever said:
I wish I was savvy about computer & internet
So I could find were this pricks live,no knocking on the door just kick the fker in and then them..
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I think that some of them are just keyboard warriors hiding behind fake names mate.
I genuinely shudder to think that some people post and have these views towards the NHS workers.
 
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