COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Paul1970 said:
So why have the country not imprenented a more severe lockdown than attempt he moment I mean I get it that supermarkets remain open but does the country really need all these little tin pot foreign food shops open on every corner . Chemist and essential supermarkets and that’s it what should be open.
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we’re not China unfortunately and can’t implement draconian measures - we’ve shut down as best we could I think and vast majority seem to be abiding.
 
Ban-jani said:
It’s still confidential as no one knows who I’m talking about and this is a mostly anonymous forum.

You’re a strange bloke Vic.
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I am put in mind of Pete Postlethwaite in "Closing the Ring".

"Can you keep a secret?"
"Yes"
"Tell me a secret you've kept."
 
Gelsons Dad said:
you joined the discussion with "that's not remotely true"
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Yes, to you posting “No” to this quote:

““The reason why we in Germany have so few deaths at the moment compared to the number of infected can be largely explained by the fact that we are doing an extremely large number of lab diagnoses,”

Every one of my subsequent posts was about the difference between U.K. and German CFR’s. As I made clear several times.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
see my post above.

the quote is false. They do not know the number of infected.
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It’s patently obvious they are talking about the difference between their CFR and those in the U.K., Italy, Spain et al.

You’re now being pedantic to save face.
 
bluethrunthru said:
This always has been the case. 15 years ago my mum had treatment withdrawn and was allowed to die when it became clear she couldn't be saved. And those medical professionals didn't have a ward full of others and a queue outside the door waiting to be let in all in the same boat. My guess would be those decisions have been made time and time again
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I know what you mean, a close relative had the same happen to her several years ago when she was virtually brain dead.

However, my mother who died a few years ago had her life shortened by hospital policy about the elderly and non resuscitation after her stoke that got her there despite being mentally aware, just because of her age.

Do you think old and young people who suffer similar underlying problems but are both mentally alert will be treated the same?
 
Rammy Blue said:
Have to laugh, otherwise you’d
Rammy Blue said:
Oh give over.

You post a lot of decent stuff, however you go missing when you’re wrong.

I said the other week we’d be doing very well if we got away with anything under 20k deaths and you came charging in to shoot me down with a quote of Neil Ferguson saying the 5k figure and pointing out he was a lot more qualified than me to be making that assertion.

I am just pointing out that in that sense I will therefore be proved to be far more correct than he was.

Simple.
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SilverFox2 said:
I know what you mean, a close relative had the same happen to her several years ago when she was virtually brain dead.

However, my mother who died a few years ago had her life shortened by hospital policy about the elderly and non resuscitation after her stoke that got her there despite being mentally aware, just because of her age.

Do you think old and young people who suffer similar underlying problems but are both mentally alert will be treated the same?
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No idea mate we are in uncharted waters - I honestly reckon numbers vs resources will determine where the line is drawn. We know the resources are stretched so its down to numbers which is why people need to observe the rules.
 
domalino said:
The Glasgow care home patients that we know about, because people said they died from coronavirus and were not infact swept under the rug but brought to national attention as possible coronavirus deaths?

Yes, I can see how that really plays into your "secret care home deaths covered up" conspiracy.
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only 585 cases and 8 deaths in Beijing. I'm going to move there after all this is over, they seem to have incredible health care.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
No I didn't miss any point.
The article attempts to infer that Germany has a lower IFR. It doesn't.
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No it doesn’t. It literally talks about their CASE fatality rate being lower because they do more tests:

“Another explanation for the low fatality rate is that Germany has been testing far more people than most nations. That means it catches more people with few or no symptoms, increasing the number of known cases, but not the number of fatalities.

“That automatically lowers the death rate on paper,” said Professor Kräusslich

“The reason why we in Germany have so few deaths at the moment compared to the number of infected can be largely explained by the fact that we are doing an extremely large number of lab diagnoses,” said Dr. Christian Drosten, chief virologist at Charité, whose team developed the first test.”

FFS. What is it with you tonight? For once, know when to just stop.
 
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