COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[BlueAnorak]

Yes.
stay 2 meters away from Tigers.

Coffee on the Keyboard moment. Brilliant.

 

[domalino]

I hear what you are saying but there is a fundamental flaw in the various assumptions above "most people will get this at some point".

That absolutely must not be allowed to happen and it can be prevented. It must be prevented. If it is only as deadly as flu and say 40m or 50m people get it then that means 50,000 people dead. Which would mean multiples of that needing ICU treatment and we have nowhere near the capacity to cater for those numbers in any sorts of near timescale, so even more dead.

The objective is to prevent as many people as possible from getting this, not forever, but until a vaccine arrives. And then vaccinate everyone.

There is absolutely zero chance of this happening. Your plan to lockdown even more severely than we already are for 18 months is a complete fantasy.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Link?

Try her Wiki page.

 

[west didsblue]

I hear what you are saying but there is a fundamental flaw in the various assumptions above "most people will get this at some point".

That absolutely must not be allowed to happen and it can be prevented. It must be prevented. If it is only as deadly as flu and say 40m or 50m people get it then that means 50,000 people dead. Which would mean multiples of that needing ICU treatment and we have nowhere near the capacity to cater for those numbers in any sorts of near timescale, so even more dead.

The objective is to prevent as many people as possible from getting this, not forever, but until a vaccine arrives. And then vaccinate everyone.

Once a proven antibody test is available in large quantities, that will be the point where we can slowly start to get the economy moving again. There are probably millions who have already had it and don’t realise. They need to be back at work as quickly as possible.

 

[creditunionhero]

Didn't Boris' dad say he was going to the pub when the lockdown was announced, I hope it wasn't him who has passed it on to his son?

 

[Bluemoon dan]

Once a proven antibody test is available in large quantities, that will be the point where we can slowly start to get the economy moving again. There are probably millions who have already had it and don’t realise. They need to be back at work as quickly as possible.

Just on this testing everyone to see if they have had it point. If you are tested and you haven't had it, what do you actually do with that information? Are you then meant to self-isolate for the foreseeable future until there is a vaccine or do you just get back out there and hope to pick up a mild case?

 

[BlueAnorak]

There is absolutely zero chance of this happening. Your plan to lockdown even more severely than we already are for 18 months is a complete fantasy.

Have to agree.
You can however do what a vaccine does the more costly way. That involves taking blood plasma from survivors and injecting it into those at risk.
That would be greatly helped if an antibody test was available as you could identify those who have had it who haven't been in hospital.

 

[creditunionhero]

According to my next door neighbour.
A tiger in New York zoo has tested positive.
Anyone else heard this

It's a good job Chester zoo got closed then.

 

[SilverFox2]

I hear what you are saying but there is a fundamental flaw in the various assumptions above "most people will get this at some point".

That absolutely must not be allowed to happen and it can be prevented. It must be prevented. If it is only as deadly as flu and say 40m or 50m people get it then that means 50,000 people dead. Which would mean multiples of that needing ICU treatment and we have nowhere near the capacity to cater for those numbers in any sorts of near timescale, so even more dead.

The objective is to prevent as many people as possible from getting this, not forever, but until a vaccine arrives. And then vaccinate everyone.

You are probably right but I know via involved construction relatives that many other temporary venues are being / selected as hospital overspill in the UK.
I also hear that certain permanent hospital construction work has been given financial incentive for early completion.
Hopefully this is just in case but ramping up bed space is happening and I note Babcock now making ventilators as well.

 

[asahartford1]

Interesting from julian peto, epidemiologist. Test all population , every week, pandemic over.
He is the expert, not sure why we are not aiming for this.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Sweden PM expects thousands of deaths but still refuses to lock down , pubs bars etc all still open. Idiots.

 

[twosips]

Interesting from julian peto, epidemiologist. Test all population , every week, pandemic over.
He is the expert, not sure why we are not aiming for this.

Logistics I guess. We're struggling to test more than 12k a day at the moment. How are we going to organise 66million a week?

 

[PragueBlue]

You can however do what a vaccine does the more costly way. That involves taking blood plasma from survivors and injecting it into those at risk.
.

The Czechs are starting to do that this week I think.

 

[asahartford1]

Logistics I guess. We're struggling to test more than 12k a day at the moment. How are we going to organise 66million a week?

He seemed to think we did have the capability. Just not the will. 10 million a day, all the labs in the country could do it.
Was on sky news , try to listen to him. He is highly thought of specialist.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The Czechs are starting to do that this week I think.

Czech mate.

 

[domalino]

Interesting from julian peto, epidemiologist. Test all population , every week, pandemic over.
He is the expert, not sure why we are not aiming for this.

Hmm, yeah, really can't see why we're not aiming for this.

All we need to do is test 66,000,000 people every week. That's only 62,000,000 more tests than the entire world had carried out by 30th March.

 

[SilverFox2]

Interesting from julian peto, epidemiologist. Test all population , every week, pandemic over.
He is the expert, not sure why we are not aiming for this.

That answers a query I made some time ago as to the frequency those who test negative should be re tested.
Thanks for posting, I wonder how often NHS staff should be tested though?

 

[DrBlueBob]

Yes.
stay 2 meters away from Tigers.

Apparently it's a different strain so I think I am correct in saying that you can get as close as you like with no danger to you or others. It's best to stick to facts not scaremongering in these difficult times.

 

[west didsblue]

Just on this testing everyone to see if they have had it point. If you are tested and you haven't had it, what do you actually do with that information? Are you then meant to self-isolate for the foreseeable future until there is a vaccine or do you just get back out there and hope to pick up a mild case?

Good question.
I don’t want to pretend to know the answer.

 

[BlueAnorak]

The Czechs are starting to do that this week I think.

We're doing it and we want to ramp it up massively. But you really need an antibody test to do it big time.