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I do.
I also take precautions regarding what is objective and what is subjective.
It has firmly crossed the boundary from subjective to objective. There are papers published on the subject.
The 2 metre distance guide was brought in because of evidence. It is now clear that this advice is insufficient.
 
If they are at the point when they’re going to die then nothing is going to save them.

I take your point, and people will do anything when they are desperate, but it’s the same difference as to what you would want to do to someone who killed a family member, as oppose to the sanctions they would face from society, via the judicial system. Rules and laws are there for a reason. I realise these are unusual times, but we abandon prudence around clinical trials at our peril. If this disease was killing a higher proportion of the population then a more reckless approach may be justified, but as things stand we should proceed with a degree of caution that Trump is conspicuously eschewing; and as I say he is wholly unqualified to evaluate the associated risk. The fact he is surrounded by yes-man, sycophants and vested interests only serves to accentuate that risk imo.
It’s just worth pointing out that there is method in his madness, and that this drug is being administered en masse by doctors in New York. Just occasionally in an emergency an executive decision needs to be taken which doesn’t abide by all the normal rules. If there is the possibility to save human lives by adopting an unconventional approach then it makes sense to try it. Maybe some are blinded by their hatred of Trump?
 
It’s just worth pointing out that there is method in his madness, and that this drug is being administered en masse by doctors in New York. Just occasionally in an emergency an executive decision needs to be taken which doesn’t abide by all the normal rules. If there is the possibility to save human lives by adopting an unconventional approach then it makes sense to try it. Maybe some are blinded by their hatred of Trump?
I’m sure there are, but I’m not one of them. I’m always happy to give praise where it’s due - and with that in mind I’ll say this: he’s had a huge amount of good fortune throughout his life (which I say non-pejoratively) and I hope that luck holds in relation to this hunch. Genuinely.
 
Keep posting Marv - I never thought you would be the one keeping me sane at present ;)
You have got it bad then.

I think the world is playing catch up. The virus in Europe and the US is at its peak, and we are at a low but it will turn around now. If South Korea and China can keep it at bay through testing, I don't see why nations like Germany, the USA, UK etc can not do likewise.

I am not sure what the new normal will look like. Probably gradualist change until we get where we want to be, and then from somewhere a vaccine will emerge. I think in the UK the worst is almost behind us. The deaths may go up, but we will see the hospitalisations go down and we'll know the pipeline of bad news is getting smaller. We'll have to be really vigilant going forward though.

Antibody tests will be about a month off they say. Then we'll know which healthworkers are safe and that will be very helpful.
 
Ladies and Gentleman it is now highly likely that you are more likely to catch this virus from breathing in aerosol droplets in the air than touching a surface on which there are infected particles.
Some articles on this subject (there are hundreds - Google is your friend):
https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-can-spread-as-an-aerosol.html
https://www.sciencealert.com/is-coronavirus-spread-by-talking-and-breathing
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...-might-travel-through-the-air?t=1586254404572

SARS was determined to be aerosol spread, so why people think Coronavirus won't be is beyond me.

WEAR A MASK OR WEAR A SCARF OVER YOUR NOSE AND MOUTH WHEN YOU ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO OTHER PEOPLE.

Anyone interested in the aerosol debate should watch this documentary from NHK from a Japanese laboratory with very good live visuals on the capabilities of the virus in a controlled setting. Saw this a week or so ago and was going to post it but had already been slapped down for suggesting there are varying degrees of the definition of 'airborne' matters not in my opinion what the definition is, but what the latest science is saying.

As always, a caveat has to be thrown in that it is very difficult to corroborate findings based on the limited time lines we have had to analyse and retest the data but the Japanese have good form in this area.

 
Apparently Wuhan have opened their wet markets up again today
If that’s true what the fuck is going on ?
 
Thanks bud, but I'm not self-employed mate (technically I am)- already been looked in to by my accountants - I am a director of my own company - a one man-band employee of it who pays PAYE.

I do not qualify for anything - HMRC basically admitted I fall between the cracks as I would get 80 per cent of my regular £800 a month salary for three months but I can't really furlough myself as I would not be allowed to do any work - hence my 25 year company would crash - I can just about earn the same amount that the HMRC would eventually backdate to me.

The vast majority of my earnings come from dividends each month that can be left to pay after liabilities.

We don't qualify for any benefits either because apparently the private pension that I have had since 19 (and can't be realised for another 26 years) is also factored into savings, which is fucked up. I have also been putting money by for the kids' university one day (stupidly in a joint account with my wife)

It's different circumstances for everyone, I'm sure there are plenty also in my situation. Nobody is going to take on extra debt via the assistance from banks in this climate, certainly not small business, freelancers or one-man-bands.

I don't trade in goods, I trade in my own efforts and intellectual property. When I stop, the business stops.

What about the other link I post mate
 
Hi Mate
The advice given to most headteachers is to do a rota for staff so that they are not in every day, particularly over the Easter holidays. in fact there was a joint communique from all of the unions telling schools to give all staff two weeks holiday over the lockdown period so they weren’t ‘losing out’ on their Easter holidays.

some schools have only three staff in at a time, someone on the Leadership team and two classroom teachers
We've been on rota since "lockdown"; started with 19 pupils but soon dwindled as we wormed out the chancers. Now between 4 and 6 pupils per day.
We have two teachers plus 2 from leadership. Leadership is chiefly taken up with telephone calls and visits to "vulnerable" families.
we've got Google Classroom up and running for "distance learning" and are doing our utmost to both support the key workers but to ensure school is as safe as possible, ie, not admitting pupils when they can safely stay at home.
 
Thanks for the advice. I am a ltd company (me doing the work, me and my wife as directors) and take some PAYE and the bulk in dividends. I have a trickle of work (telephone advice, policy reviews etc) but not enough to even cover PAYE. I guess I have a decision to make but dont want to let trusted clients down.

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I understand that,its going to be a big decision mate
 
I’m sure there are, but I’m not one of them. I’m always happy to give praise where it’s due - and with that in mind I’ll say this: he’s had a huge amount of good fortune throughout his life (which I say non-pejoratively) and I hope that luck holds in relation to this hunch. Genuinely.
Same here, I don’t give a shit about Trump, I’m a pragmatist and can see the logic in giving this a shot in a desperate situation.
 
schools for key workers, vulnerable children and children with special needs will start again in two weeks after Easter.
Do the teachers have masks?
How do you teach a 5 year old from 2 metres away?
Government advice is that all children, where it is safe to do so, remain at home. That includes those with SEN, those with an EHC Plan; those that are "vulnerable" ie have CIN or CP Plan but Children's Services are satisfied no harm at home.
 
Hi S. my daughter is a nurse at a Yorkshire hospital and has 2 young children.
Her husband is a solicitor so now works from home. That way her usual 3 x 12 hour shifts per week are covered.
They now self educate the kids via books from eg Schofield and Sims who I believe are very busy keeping up with demand so not all key workers need to make use of schooling.


Our own kids have been given plenty of online assignments but, as you say, sometimes key workers need that extra security net of somebody else working from home.
 
The schools are still open over Easter holidays.

My wife is SEN teacher and currently 'looking after' seven kids aged between three and 11.

It is now causing a real issue between us. We have two kids of our own and there would be zero exposure otherwise.

Four of the kids are from NHS workers. No safety measures.
 
Watching the thing about a tiger in america who has caught covid from his human keeper,it was displaying symptoms,so far they dont think it can transfer it to a human

Vet on now says cats or dogs cant at this moment transfer it to humans although an owner and his domestic cat both had it

Pets can have it on them,picking it up from surfaces ,so just dont touch other peoples cats or dog,almost zero risk at this moment of transmission

interesting thing to keep an eye on though

this morning
 
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