COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Some Spanish factory and construction workers going back next week although the bulk of the lockdown remains
 
ninjamonkey said:
I’ve got somebody who’s kind of part of the family (not by blood thankfully) who is one of these people. 5G, the government planted it, bill gates part of the cabal, Chem trails drugging is all, vaccines with mind control drugs the entire works. In most aspects he’s a moderately intelligent enough guy until it comes to conspiracy theories which is when he loses all semblance of rational sense and will recite “facts” he gets from god knows where for hours on end if you let him. For months after we first met I thought he was joking and would go along with the joke until it became apparent he believes this shit. I’m the type of person who will challenge such stupidity and began doing so but for every bit of bullshit you shoot down he’s got an even more ridiculous answer to it. in the end, I’ve just stopped speaking to him, you can’t reason with people like that so the best thing you can do is simply ignore them and let them live in their tin foil cave so long as he doesn’t try to convince others. No surprise he’s a rag.
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I’ve met some clever people who chat the same nonsense.
The government don’t want people going outside so they can put fresh batteries in the birds. It’s obvious.
 
EU chief: Elderly may be isolated until 2021


The elderly may have to remain in isolation until next year to protect themselves from coronavirus, the EU Commission president has told a German newspaper.

Ursula von der Leyen told Bild “we have to limit as much as possible contact with the elderly” until a vaccine against Covid-19 was developed.

Most experts say a vaccine that provides immunity to coronavirus will not be ready for mass production for at least a year.

Von der Leyen said she recognised the difficultly of isolation, but stressed when “it is a question of life or death, we have to remain disciplined and patient”.

"Children and young people will enjoy more freedom of movement earlier than elderly people and those with pre-existing medical conditions," she told Bild.

She said she hoped that a European laboratory would develop a vaccine towards the end of the year.
 
How does this sound now? The Government' Chief Scientific Adviser speaking on Radio 4 one month ago.

“Our aim is to try and reduce the peak, broaden the peak, not suppress it completely; also, because the vast majority of people get a mild illness, to build up some kind of herd immunity so more people are immune to this disease and we reduce the transmission, at the same time we protect those who are most vulnerable to it. Those are the key things we need to do.”
 
ayrshire_blue said:
EU chief: Elderly may be isolated until 2021


The elderly may have to remain in isolation until next year to protect themselves from coronavirus, the EU Commission president has told a German newspaper.

Ursula von der Leyen told Bild “we have to limit as much as possible contact with the elderly” until a vaccine against Covid-19 was developed.

Most experts say a vaccine that provides immunity to coronavirus will not be ready for mass production for at least a year.

Von der Leyen said she recognised the difficultly of isolation, but stressed when “it is a question of life or death, we have to remain disciplined and patient”.

"Children and young people will enjoy more freedom of movement earlier than elderly people and those with pre-existing medical conditions," she told Bild.

She said she hoped that a European laboratory would develop a vaccine towards the end of the year.
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The world has to be very careful in how it treads in the next few weeks.
 
Incidently. If Belgium had the same population as the UK with similar death stats to Belgium they would have reported 1,477 deaths today.
They actually reported 254 deaths.
 
BlueAnorak said:
The main reason in this case is population density. The higher the population density, the more likely you are to catch it. Between 30 and 40% of our nation's cities are ethnic minorities - even more so in densly populated city centres - so proportionally they will be hit harder.
The second reason is underlying medical conditions - especially diabetes (both type1 and type 2) and high blood pressure. This is why men are being hit proportionally harder as more of them have these conditions than women. Especially those over 60. Lifestyle and poverty come in here. High sugar diets are cheaper and this leads to people being overweight. Hence the poor and unfit will have proportionally more of these conditions.
The third reason is genetics. I'm afraid the Asian community will be hit the hardest here - twice as heavily as other communities in the same environments. Even healthy people in this community have a propensity for diabetes. Twice as much as any other ethnicity.
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There's a fourth reason, they can't stay apart, families visit families, we've seen it all weekend where I live, and that's relatively well off and well educated people.

Worse still for the Muslim community, Ramadan begins in 10 days time, and is usually broken each day with a family feast after sunset, how is that going to affect the situation ?
 
On that subject;

https://inews.co.uk/news/health/car...-to-deal-with-coronavirus-in-scotland-2536905
Care workers across Scotland are to be given an immediate pay rise in recognition of their work during the coronavirus outbreak, with more than a third of care homes now reporting possible cases.

All adult social care workers will receive a 3.3 per cent increase in pay, backdated from 1 April, and will now receive a minimum of the real living wage of £9.30 per hour.
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I hope England and Wales follow quickly.
 
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