COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[bluethrunthru]

He is a rag and therefore a prick but this is mad

 

[Blue Hefner]

given the population densities in Europe comparing actual numbers is misleading and often alarmist which obviously suits piers Morgan.

deaths per 1million of population is a much better way of seeing how countries healthcare systems/ strategies are coping . Although I still don’t believe how people measure deaths or manage their stats so even this is difficult to follow.

Eg

we have 156 deaths per 1 million of the population.

china has 2 .

China is a little different though because of the size. The outbreak was contained more or less to the province where Wuhan is, the name escapes me. Maybe a more accurate way would be deaths per million of that particular province???

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Especially when there are a whole load of other variables, especially population density and demographics.

well what we think we seem to be telling each other is the numbers and comparisons are all meaningless ? !

 

[Deleted member 77198]

He is a rag and therefore a prick but this is mad

That’s This Morning for you. A programme for absolute plebs presented by absolute plebs.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

well what we think we seem to be telling each other is the numbers and comparisons are all meaningless ? !

I wouldn’t presume to tell @Chris in London anything!

 

[bluethrunthru]

That’s This Morning for you. A programme for absolute plebs presented by absolute plebs.

also in the mind of one of its presenters its not part of the mainstream media nor is the ITV channel? Fucking bellend rag twat !

 

[BlueAnorak]

The main goal is vaccination with as few deaths as possible. That’s plan A.

If you get to herd immunity via normal transmission (what the Gov’t were referring to as ‘herd immunity’) and between 60-80% of the population get COVID-19, that’s a lot of deaths unless the 60-80% are people without underlying health conditions. I doubt that’s plan A anywhere in the world judging by the lockdowns imposed because of the numbers that would likely die.

Vaccines give herd immunity.
I fail to understand why people dont get this.
Each to there own I suppose.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I needed a laugh. This gave it to me.

 

[crooky]

He is a rag and therefore a prick but this is mad

Haha!

Stick that in the comedy thread. Best thing I’ve seen all year. Hehe.

 

[cleavers]

I don't know where you lot all live but it's like a ghost town round here.

Went to get shopping yesterday, drove through town and there was barely a soul about.

Its the same here, BUT, in the apartment complex we live, people are still having visits from families and friends, on foot (taking their exercise obviously).

We do one walk each day, but avoid contact with anyone else as much as is possible, crossing the road if need be, or walking in the road, we have spoken to neighbours, but from distance (certainly more than 2m), and we wipe anything we have to touch (doors/lift buttons etc), before we touch it.

 

[M18CTID]

comparisons are pointless unless you know what is being treated as a death from corona virus.

if someone has terminal cancer and the virus finishes them off, it’s not counted as a virus related death in some countries, it is in others. people dying in care homes from the virus aren’t counted in some places and are in others.

unless you know that the statistics in Belgium, China, the US etc are all being recorded in the same way, it’s a fairly pointless exercise to compare death rates country to country.

Fair comment

 

[Chippy_boy]

So you don't know.

More than you ever will.

 

[Fame Monster]

Vaccines give herd immunity.
I fail to understand why people dont get this.
Each to there own I suppose.

I do get it, that’s why I made it clear when people speak of ‘herd immunity’ as a policy they don’t mean herd immunity via vaccination, they mean herd immunity via normal transmission.

 

[purplenose]

That’s This Morning for you. A programme for absolute plebs presented by absolute plebs.

Its absolutely fucking dreadful. Absolute shite and using the fact that Holly is worth a portion is no excuse whatever for watching it. Utter drivel weirdness and twee.

Cunts work.

 

[Fame Monster]

comparisons are pointless unless you know what is being treated as a death from corona virus.

if someone has terminal cancer and the virus finishes them off, it’s not counted as a virus related death in some countries, it is in others. people dying in care homes from the virus aren’t counted in some places and are in others.

unless you know that the statistics in Belgium, China, the US etc are all being recorded in the same way, it’s a fairly pointless exercise to compare death rates country to country.

If we weren’t looking at Germany’s statistics and thinking they are probably doing something we could learn from, I’d be very worried. Yes there’s a margin of error but clear trends are forming and you can’t wait until all the data is in and 100% reliable before you act.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Its absolutely fucking dreadful. Absolute shite and using the fact that Holly is worth a portion is no excuse whatever for watching it. Utter drivel weirdness and twee.

Cunts work.

As bad as The One Show, and that program defines garbage.

 

[abu13]

I was amazed this morning just how many people are out and about, where i live i have seen a drastic reduction in the number of people who walk past our house. However i went out to get shopping for the first time since Thursday this morning to get my shopping as well as food for my elderly mother. I couldn't believe just how many people were out, Morrisions, Asda, Aldi, Lidl, Iceland and B&M all had car parks that must have been 75% full, to be fair some of these stores share the same car park so i hope each store is enforcing the distancing rules. From the outside it just looked like any other day.

What really got me was the increase in the number of number of joggers, walkers and cyclist out as well, There must be thousands of people out of their homes at present around Tameside. I saw nothing with regard to a police presence and it is clear that there is just no resource available to deal with this.

 

[kaz7]

This is the great unknown in all this we don’t seem to have any clue how many have had it, seen loads of widely differing estimates from 1000 / death which would be 1 in 6 of us down to about 2% of us.
Not sure how we plan future restrictions without a much better idea of a true number.
We know @karen7 thinks she caught it at Wembley, we know the Villa fan had it at Wembley so it was going around then but did anyone Karen was with at Wembley show symptoms and get tested ?
We have a suspicion our son had it over new year which seems too early , my wife had a mild cough after him but myself and his sister nothing.
We really need a test to know these numbers.

I spent the day with worsleweb,he got tested as i had tested positive and he is fin e,as i am a hermit i can be sure i got it that weekend,as you say the villa fan was already sick when he went to wembley

The Aston Villa fan first noticed symptoms when he headed to Wembley for the League Cup final against Manchester City on 1 March. He had a "bad dry cough" and a "bit of a headache

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-in-intensive-care-a-survivors-story-11965073

It is possible that people had it as early as jan i think,maybe it started off quite mild and got worse as it spread?

 

[Chris in London]

If we weren’t looking at Germany’s statistics and thinking they are probably doing something we could learn from, I’d be very worried. Yes there’s a margin of error but clear trends are forming and you can’t wait until all the data is in and 100% reliable before you act.

re read the caveat at the end of the first sentence of the post you replied to and see if you think that applies to Germany

 

[kaz7]

Karen got it quick then, the league cup final was next day ! Or have I been Clarkied ?

He is wrong,the villa fan was already sick before wembley