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Gelsons Dad said:
examples please.
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Uh, well, LBJ’s Great Society programs are 5x or maybe 10x the COVID stimulus in today’s dollars.

The President is not the Federal Reserve. He’s also not Congress (though admittedly maybe he thinks he is both) but he signs their bills.

The Congressional stimulus package was more than 2x what Trump proposed. His proposal in today’s dollars was less than that of FDR’s New Deal programs.

So, yeah — no.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
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great film
 
I see he has Ivanka and Jared front and Center on his ‘opening up America’ task force. Nothing like putting the greatest minds in charge of something serious that affects lives. She knows about fashion so there’s that i suppose.
 
super_city_si said:
I see he has Ivanka and Jared front and Center on his ‘opening up America’ task force. Nothing like putting the greatest minds in charge of something serious that affects lives. She knows about fashion so there’s that i suppose.
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She has a special relationship with Xi Jinping, after he gave her her trade deals at Mar-A-Lago, so she knows everything there is to know about the China Virus. It’s all about the contacts...and the corruption!
 
super_city_si said:
I see he has Ivanka and Jared front and Center on his ‘opening up America’ task force. Nothing like putting the greatest minds in charge of something serious that affects lives. She knows about fashion so there’s that i suppose.
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Do the MAGA idiots have no qualms about his family being given these jobs?
 
“The president has no authority to ‘close down’ or ‘open up’ the states," Rep. Justin Amash said calling out President Trump for shutting down states' power to announce reopening from coronavirus lockdowns and asserting it is a decision only the president can make. "Put down the authoritarianism and read the Constitution."



can’t believe GD is arguing that Trump has the total authority to “open up” States. Seth doesn’t agree:

 
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Gelsons Dad said:
Of course he did get elected, and probably will be again.
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Based on what? GOP were twatted in 2018 and keep losing on things he’s endorsing (look at this key state and their vote yesterday for the State SC):



Turnout is all Dems need, they already have the numbers and Trump going off on one like last night just further increases the chance of high turnout.

Why are you so confident of a Trump victory. I really can’t see any way that he wins.

edit: seems turnout isn’t as key as I thought:

 
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mat said:
Are there any GOP members who aren't ashamed watching this?
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Just a direct video from Fox that he aired.



And yet some posters try fixate on whether one sentence was correct (answer: it wasn’t) rather than what a complete cluster fuck the briefing was.
 
karen7 said:
My life was a risk was i got covid,it took two emergency treatments and was border line for admission so i am not sure why you are making that point,nobody knows if the immunity lasts a month or a year or for life so i am not taking it for granted till i get the antibody test
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Quite right too, and even then, there won't be any real knowledge about how long any immunity lasts until time passes.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
How notable is Sanders endorsing Biden last night?
Seems like a surprise (as in it's earlier than might have been expected).
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It's significant, not just because he's endorsing him, but because Biden and Bernie have set up 6 joint working groups on major policies where Bernie staffers will get absorbed into Biden's campaign and shape his policies.

That's going to have a massive impact on the "Bernie Bro's" feeling like getting behind Biden.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
Sure if your assumption that he isn't properly briefed is true. But neither you or I know if that's correct or not.
i don't want to defend the guy too much because I'm no MAGA guy and I'm also not a big fanboy. I don't live in the states, I know many many friends who do. we are all from a similar background and from the same industry (aviation). I've spent many months working in the States, all corners, but always in the same industry with similar minded people so I don't claim to have any real insight. Of course he did get elected, and probably will be again. But as I say that's outside my purview. What i will say is listen to the last question of the briefing a couple of days ago and his last few sentences of reply and tell me hand on heart that his heart is not in the right place.
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Two things.

The only reason you can say you’re not a MAGA guy is that you’re not an American. Everything you said last night contradicts that assertion. You’ve clearly demonstrated that you’re a fanboy.

Secondly, I watched that clip you posted and it’s incoherent babble. I can honestly say, hand on heart, his heart is not in the right place. I’d be surprised if he had one at all.
 
SWP's back said:
Based on what? GOP were twatted in 2018 and keep losing on things he’s endorsing (look at this key state and their vote yesterday for the State SC):



Turnout is all Dems need, they already have the numbers and Trump going off on one like last night just further increases the chance of high turnout.

Why are you so confident of a Trump victory. I really can’t see any way that he wins.

edit: seems turnout isn’t as key as I thought:

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It's hard to understate the importance of that Wisconsin result.

Wisconsin has been the hotbed of radical GOP tactics, they tried stack the deck of all future elections in their favour and to strip the governor and attorney general of all powers when they lost in 2018 before their democratic replacements came in. It's gerrymandered to fuck, they have insane voter ID laws and the GOP activists on the supreme court just made one of the most disgraceful and unjustifiable decisions in American legal history to help them win this.

Everything should have made the GOP win. Major urban areas went from 180 polling stations....to 2, while rural republican areas were almost unaffected.

And they still lost.
 
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west didsblue said:
Two things.

The only reason you can say you’re not a MAGA guy is that you’re not an American. Everything you said last night contradicts that assertion. You’ve clearly demonstrated that you’re a fanboy.

Secondly, I watched that clip you posted and it’s incoherent babble. I can honestly say, hand on heart, his heart is not in the right place. I’d be surprised if he had one at all.
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He's just like Dax before him. "I'm not a maga guy but I swallow every line Trump throws out there" "I'm just being balanced while ignoring 90% of what Trump does".

GD thinks Trump is an expert linguist who deliberately speaks in an incomprehensible way for effect, has his heart in the right place and does a great job.

We're 4 years in. No one neutral or grounded in the real world thinks that, we have piles upon piles of definitive proof stating otherwise...you're wasting your time engaging.
 
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